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<blockquote data-quote="ArmenianJohn" data-source="post: 74235670" data-attributes="member: 324023"><p>I will not vote for Trump under any circumstance, but I don't believe in "vote blue no matter who". I don't think a corporatist Democrat is actually better than Trump; I think it's as bad and maybe even more insidious. President Obama (whom I voted for twice) turned out to be a good example of that. He droned hundreds of thousands of women, children, and elderly to painful maiming and death yet it remains ignored or, worse, accepted by Democrats as "OK" because it was Obama who did it. Electing a Biden, Harris, or even Warren is just continuing in this pseudo-liberal pattern where a candidate/elected official talks like a liberal and has liberal views on abortion and gay marriage but is a crypto conservative when it comes to the most important things that affect all Americans, such as income inequality and universal health care.</p><p></p><p>The driving factor behind these corporatist Democrats is their embracing of corporate donations. This leaves them beholden to those donors and they return the favor by enacting legislation that favors the corporations and oligarchs who support them instead of we the people. The only candidates I know to have remained consistent in not taking money from corporate (oligarch) special interests are Bernie and Tulsi.</p><p></p><p>Therefore, if Bernie or Tulsi get the nomination then I will vote for them. If not, I will likely vote Green Party again.</p><p></p><p>It's very hard for me to understand how my fellow democrats who claim to be against corporatist interests can so easily support a corporatist candidate. I truly don't comprehend it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ArmenianJohn, post: 74235670, member: 324023"] I will not vote for Trump under any circumstance, but I don't believe in "vote blue no matter who". I don't think a corporatist Democrat is actually better than Trump; I think it's as bad and maybe even more insidious. President Obama (whom I voted for twice) turned out to be a good example of that. He droned hundreds of thousands of women, children, and elderly to painful maiming and death yet it remains ignored or, worse, accepted by Democrats as "OK" because it was Obama who did it. Electing a Biden, Harris, or even Warren is just continuing in this pseudo-liberal pattern where a candidate/elected official talks like a liberal and has liberal views on abortion and gay marriage but is a crypto conservative when it comes to the most important things that affect all Americans, such as income inequality and universal health care. The driving factor behind these corporatist Democrats is their embracing of corporate donations. This leaves them beholden to those donors and they return the favor by enacting legislation that favors the corporations and oligarchs who support them instead of we the people. The only candidates I know to have remained consistent in not taking money from corporate (oligarch) special interests are Bernie and Tulsi. Therefore, if Bernie or Tulsi get the nomination then I will vote for them. If not, I will likely vote Green Party again. It's very hard for me to understand how my fellow democrats who claim to be against corporatist interests can so easily support a corporatist candidate. I truly don't comprehend it. [/QUOTE]
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