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The Deception of Evolution and the Fossil Sequence

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If you insist - although since you are in this discussion you should already know the answer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity
"Both general relativity and quantum mechanics break down in describing the Big Bang,[5] but in general, quantum mechanics does not permit particles to inhabit a space smaller than their wavelengths."

So none of the math explains it at all.

As for life - only if you weight the dice (cheat) and ignore chemistry - do you even stand a chance.

http://www.newscientist.com/article...e-improved-by-weighted-dice.html#.VWtubkYjYih
 
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You did not understand the argument. He never claimed to be able to prove what happened. You have said that the math shows it could not happen and now you have just shot yourself in the foot.
 
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The big bang is not in my wheelhouse and abiogenisis is not evolution. Do you want to discuss that now? Or are we gonna stick with evolution?
 
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I agree that it could cause errors, but I think I have demonstrated that the issue is much less dire than you and others were insisting. Do you agree?

I admit I jumped to conclusions and probably blew the problem out of proportion. How dire the classification situation actually is remains a point of speculation.

Also your running counter-argument has been based on the claim that ontogeny is rigorously checked for by studying histology and other character traits directly, but it would appear that such inquiries are not even considered if the samples are found in different rock layers. I feel that was an important point of clarification.


Well, even in a deep-time model it may still be explained by the fortuitousness of fossilization of progressively isolated breeds over millions of years (no evolution of new traits, simply altered expression of pre-existing ones) and the fossilization merely giving the illusion of anagenesis and leaving no trace of the contemporaneous breeds, but I would never argue that point because I absolutely dispute all of the deep-time geological interpretations.



I couldn't say. That would probably depend on how close in proximity their original habitats were and how far they were transported.


They wouldn't be mechanically sorted like the grains, they would simply be carried in sediment and buried in the chronological order that they arrived at the depositional environment in question, much like objects sequentially dropped into a river would be deposited in a downriver delta correspondingly.. At least that's what I'm picturing off the top of my head and I don't see an obvious problem with it.


I disagree with the 2nd point.

If the nature of assemblage X could be fundamentally different and still accommodated by plate tectonics theory, then you cannot say that the actual nature of assemblage X is evidence for plate tectonics theory. You can only say that plate tectonics accommodates that particular data. It would be dishonest to claim assemblage X is evidence that plate tectonics theory is true.

It would be sort of like me claiming I have psychic abilities because I can predict that a penny will land on either Heads or Tails. (not unlike Evolution theory in many ways)
 
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Someone with < 1 posts per day telling me to please not derail another post is like someone going into a hospital about every other day and telling the doctors to make sure they follow protocol.

You'll also note that my post in the link about not derailing a thread was not aimed at you.

Just because I don't spend huge amounts of time posting millions of posts on a forum doesn't mean I can't once ask somebody, who has a history of shoving his EU theories into every thread, politely not to derail another thread.

If you wish to continue this discussion PM me.
 
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