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You're counting nights and days in accordance with contemporary reasoning and not with knowledge of how nights and days are counted in the Bible.
Sabbath is the sabbath, Sunday is a different day. what's your point? the early biblical church valued worship on Sunday without dispute but this in no way attacks the Sabbath. The bible has never mandated worship to be only held on one day of the week regardless of which day you think that is.
There are many Christian organizations and some Christian institutions
I agree ...... Many Christian organizations / institutions have come to the conclusion, after doing their research of scripture and the ways of the ancient Hebrews, Jesus rose on the 7th Day the Sabbath.
It seems the Hebrew days began at 6 p.m. and ended 24 hours later at 6 p.m. unlike the now used Roman's - which begins at 12 a.m.
The Hebrews had several different sabbath celebrations, besides the 7th Day Sabbath. One must know which Sabbath was being referred to when the word Sabbath is used.
Organization such as The Trumpet _ Beyond Today _ Tomorrow's World _Church of The Great God _ The Israel of God _ Biblical Archaeology are some that gives their reasonings in their articles.
It is theorized and you have stated in your comments about Easter - when Constantine became a Christian he and the early Roman church leaders changed the old Roman pagan gods celebration did on the first day, to a Christian celebration of the Resurrection.
Whatever happened, from Friday night on the Roman Calendar to before day Sunday morning is not three days and three nights. Plus if Christ rose on the 7th Day Sabbath -that goes back to Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. And I have to add in The Lost Gospel According to Peter / The Last Gospel of Peter - which is only one incomplete chapter verse 12 says "and at dawn upon the Lord's Day Mary Magdalene, a disciple of the Lord, fearing because of the Jews, since they were burning with wrath, had not done at the Lord's sepulchre the things which women are wont to do for those that die and for those that are beloved by them - she took her friends with her and came to the sepulchre where he was laid. I asked the question what and when is the Lord Day? This gospel was supposedly discovered it 1886, in the Valley of the upper Nile called Akhmim, in a monk's grave. I wonder where is it now?
Lol...I tried to stick mostly with the word of God and maybe a little history here and there.
How do you know this? More accurately, how could you know this? There are no records of a goddess named Eostre anywhere in the archeological and historical records outside of the Venerable Bede's Reckoning of Time. And he doesn't mention any of what you just said.
Sources?
Also you have it backward, the spring-time month was named after Eostre according to Bede.
The Council of Nicea established a standard for Paschal calculation, using the method of Paschal computation already in use by the Church in Egypt.
Yes, there were Pagans in the ancient world that celebrated during the period of the spring equinox.
Which has nothing whatsoever to do with the Christian Paschal fast.
-CryptoLutheran
No. In fact, that has been ruled out time after time in the discussions here about this same issue.
Well since Christians are not worshiping the Sun or a fertility God when they go to a sunrise service, how is it an abomination to worship God at sunrise? Or to thank him for the new season? It would only be an abomination if that's why they were there, to worship some other God.It has been taught that Jesus died on Good Friday and rose early Sunday morning. As a result of this teaching, man instituted the holiday called Easter. On Easter Sunday you have Christians, world wide paying tribute to a day, in which they believe Jesus, was resurrected. In researching the scriptures one will find that the whole concept of Jesus dying on a Friday and being resurrected on Sunday is contrary to the bible itself. In other words, this tradition directly contradicts the word of God. This lesson will examine the history of Easter a little, and then investigate the Bible concerning the death and resurrection of Jesus.
Easter Created By Man
Before we get into the death and resurrection of Jesus we need to address history of Easter itself. We will also take a look at the symbols of Easter: rabbits and eggs. What does rabbits and eggs have to do with the birth of Jesus? Furthermore, when did rabbits start laying eggs? Additionally, we will look at the history of Easter sunrise service, lilies, candles, and hot crossed buns. If you research Easter in most encyclopedias, you will see that Easter has many customs and legends that are pagan in origin and have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity.
Easter was named after Eostre (sometimes spelled Eastre), the great Anglo-Saxon goddess of spring, fertility, and new life. Similar Teutonic dawn goddesses of fertility were known variously as Ostare, Ostara, Ostern, Eostra, Eostur, Eastra, Eastur, Austron and Ausos. Her name was derived from the ancient word for spring: "eastre." Thus it is easy to see how "Eastre time" became "Easter time".
Easter Sunday falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon after March 20th, the nominal date of the Vernal (sometimes referred to as spring) Equinox. This is the day (or period of days) in spring when the days and nights are of approximately equal length. This is a time of celebrating new life, the resurrection of nature from the dead, and it has typically featured fertility rites, merrymaking, and usually centers on orgiastic sexual activities. In ancient times there were the sacrificing of virgins, the worship of fertility gods and goddesses.
The Easter sunrise service, that is practiced in many Christian churches, can be traced back to the ancient pagan custom of welcoming the sun god at the vernal equinox - when daytime is about to exceed the length of the nighttime. It was a time to celebrate the return of life and reproduction to animal and plant life as well. Worship of the sun god at sunrise is the religious ritual condemned by the Lord as recorded in Ezekiel 8:15-18.
Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.
Ezekiel 8:15-18 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these. And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east. Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose. Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.
You have to actually study history, and not just conspiracy theories on the internet.
"Easter is pagan" isn't history. It's the same kind of historical falsehood as the one often told about Columbus trying to prove the earth was round: Utterly untrue but repeated and perpetuated over and over again, even by well-meaning people.
But the actual history about the Christian Paschal Feast is well attested. Which, unlike the "Easter is Pagan" falsehood, has precisely zero historical merit.
Allow me to demonstrate:
Provide historical sources that document the pre-Christian Anglo-Saxon worship of the goddess Eostre. Literally anything. But here is the caveat, the source cannot simply be making supposition or speculation, it has to be real documentation rooted in primary source material. So Jacob Grimm speculating about Eostre/Ostara/etc does not constitute as a valid historical source.
You can use archeological sources in addition to written historical sources--literally anything that actually shows and demonstrates the Anglo-Saxon worship of Eostre and what the rites, practices, etc associated with her worship.
Provide anything that can back up what you are claiming. Anything at all.
-CryptoLutheran
In the NT and today the Greek word for the day of the week we call Friday is parasceue, which means "preparation."
All four gospels agree that Jesus was crucified on parasceue/Friday.
Mar 15:42 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, [παρασκευή/Parasceue] that is, the day before the sabbath, [προσάββατον/prosabbaton]
Luk 23:54 And that day was the preparation, [παρασκευή/Parasceue] and the sabbath drew on.
Joh 19:14 And it was the preparation [παρασκευή/Parasceue] of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
Joh 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, [παρασκευή/Parasceue] that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
Mat 27:62 Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, [παρασκευή/Parasceue] the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate,
That's like saying "if you pray on a Tuesday you are not talking to the right God, because Jesus never commanded us to pray on Tuesdays". Ridiculous.
You should get down from your high horse and stop being legalistic. You don't even seem to know the God we are talking about here.
Why not just look for yourself? There are Biblical explanations in many an internet article.Well if you think that's what I'm doing then show me, using knowledge of the scriptures.
Are we pretending that Sunday worship and Easter are not combine today. Are we pretending that the word of God is now force into these things, that none of the prophets, apostles or Jesus did, nor is written in the Bible to do. Let's see who is really behind this all in Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
We know what the Scriptures say; the question is what do the Scriptures mean by it. It is well-known (and it's been discussed here before) that the counting of days then was not as we do it now.Well if you think that's what I'm doing then show me, using knowledge of the scriptures.
We know what the Scriptures say; the question is what do the Scriptures mean by it. It is well-known (and it's been discussed here before) that the counting of days then was not as we do it now.
This should come as no surprise to you, considering (for example) that you know the Sabbath does not start at 12 midnight and end 24 hours later.
Are we pretending that Sunday worship and Easter are not combine today. Are we pretending that the word of God is now force into these things, that none of the prophets, apostles or Jesus did, nor is written in the Bible to do. Let's see who is really behind this all in Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
used there is the word 'pascha', which means Passover.
What do you mean True Resurrection? John 11:9 saysIt has been taught that Jesus died on Good Friday and rose early Sunday morning. As a result of this teaching, man instituted the holiday called Easter. On Easter Sunday you have Christians, world wide paying tribute to a day, in which they believe Jesus, was resurrected. In researching the scriptures one will find that the whole concept of Jesus dying on a Friday and being resurrected on Sunday is contrary to the bible itself. In other words, this tradition directly contradicts the word of God. This lesson will examine the history of Easter a little, and then investigate the Bible concerning the death and resurrection of Jesus.
Easter Created By Man
Before we get into the death and resurrection of Jesus we need to address history of Easter itself. We will also take a look at the symbols of Easter: rabbits and eggs. What does rabbits and eggs have to do with the birth of Jesus? Furthermore, when did rabbits start laying eggs? Additionally, we will look at the history of Easter sunrise service, lilies, candles, and hot crossed buns. If you research Easter in most encyclopedias, you will see that Easter has many customs and legends that are pagan in origin and have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity.
Easter was named after Eostre (sometimes spelled Eastre), the great Anglo-Saxon goddess of spring, fertility, and new life. Similar Teutonic dawn goddesses of fertility were known variously as Ostare, Ostara, Ostern, Eostra, Eostur, Eastra, Eastur, Austron and Ausos. Her name was derived from the ancient word for spring: "eastre." Thus it is easy to see how "Eastre time" became "Easter time".
Easter Sunday falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon after March 20th, the nominal date of the Vernal (sometimes referred to as spring) Equinox. This is the day (or period of days) in spring when the days and nights are of approximately equal length. This is a time of celebrating new life, the resurrection of nature from the dead, and it has typically featured fertility rites, merrymaking, and usually centers on orgiastic sexual activities. In ancient times there were the sacrificing of virgins, the worship of fertility gods and goddesses.
The Easter sunrise service, that is practiced in many Christian churches, can be traced back to the ancient pagan custom of welcoming the sun god at the vernal equinox - when daytime is about to exceed the length of the nighttime. It was a time to celebrate the return of life and reproduction to animal and plant life as well. Worship of the sun god at sunrise is the religious ritual condemned by the Lord as recorded in Ezekiel 8:15-18.
Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.
Ezekiel 8:15-18 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these. And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east. Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose. Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.
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