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Can't change the required 3 days AND 3 nights per the prophecy. No cheating!

Can't change that God is literally a brick and mortar castle, Psalm 18:2. And if you quote other Scriptures, I'll just tell you that you're ignoring Psalm 18:2. Because I will continue to insist on my flawed understanding of Psalm 18:2 because I refuse to admit even the possibility that I could be in error. Because I'm always right and everyone else is always wrong.

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Not false. Coupled with the requirement of Jesus' body in the tomb for 3 days and 3 nights further reveals that "high day" was not the regular weekly sabbath.

It was the day of preparation when Jesus was crucified and buried. They took Jesus' body down off the cross and buried Him in the tomb because the following day, the Sabbath day--the weekly Sabbath--was a high day. It was a high day because this Sabbath corresponded with Passover.

That's what the Bible says.

And no amount of mangling of texts is going to get you around this. You can mangle, distort, contort the Scriptures, and you can engage in all manner of mental gymnastics that you want. But at the end of the day the Bible says what it says, and you can't change it.

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Astarte
 
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Can't change the literal 3 days and 3 nights Jesus prophesied His body would be in the tomb. No cheating!
 
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Lol. Okay let's try this again.

Can you provide a credible scholarly source to back up your claim.

If I wanted crank new age wackadoodle sources I would have asked for those instead.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Can't change the literal 3 days and 3 nights Jesus prophesied His body would be in the tomb. No cheating!

So you believe that the Evangelists were lying?

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Christ's prophecy that His body would be in the tomb for 3 days and 3 nights is literal
It is a figure of speech, an example of synecdoche, otherwise you make Christ's statement that He would rise ON THE THIRD DAY a lie.
 
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So are you saying that Jesus did not rise on the third day? Since He was in the tomb during the entire third day and third night.
 
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So to summarize...
in the far East 'she' is known as Astarte, then in Greece became known as Aphrodite, then moving further West to Rome, became known as Venus, then moving North West to the Germanic kingdoms, becomes known as Eostre.

Astarte -> Aphrodite -> Venus -> Eostre

Yes! You can clearly see the linguistic, etymological links between the names showing the gradual change moving West over the centuries. It is so obvious, I don't know why people can't see this

In case you missed the (obvious) sarcasm, the article you linked actually proves that the Easter = Astarte argument is complete bunk.
 
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We know for a fact that Jesus rose on the third day. Jesus cannot have risen after that third day. To even hint that Jesus rose after the third day is a direct contradiction of what Paul declared below.

1 Corinthians 15:4
And that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures.

Matthew 20:19
And will hand Him over to the Gentiles to mock and scourge and crucify Him, and on the third day He will be raised up.

I can only assume that you are proclaiming a fourth day resurrection.

You cannot hold a literal three full days and nights and then declare a third day resurrection.
 
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That "high day" was not the regular weekly sabbath. With the feast of Passover, the first day was to be a high day, and no servile work was to be done.

The 15th was a Sabbath that year..."that (weekly) Sabbath was a high day"...
 
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Not false. Coupled with the requirement of Jesus' body in the tomb for 3 days and 3 nights further reveals that "high day" was not the regular weekly sabbath.

False...
 
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That "high day" was not the regular weekly sabbath. With the feast of Passover, the first day was to be a high day, and no servile work was to be done.

You are ignoring what I wrote that proves you wrong...
 
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I don't need to...you are ignoring scripture and the testimony of eyewitnesses on the road to Emmaus.
 
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Any part of the 24 hr day, beginning with Saturday evening, equals the whole day, whether it was still dark in the morning or not, and so it's of no importance. If you knew anything about Orthodox Christian Pascha, you would know that we are in Church celebrating it with Divine Liturgy just after midnight following Holy Saturday and beginning Sunday, when it is still dark outside and we are feasting usually before 3 AM on things we have not eaten for over 40 days and nights preceding Holy Week. For us it is the 3rd day, and "Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death". It is a feast that is prepared for by prayer and fasting and meditation upon Holy Scripture and the lives of the saints, beginning almost 60 days in advance. Evil pagans who don't know Christ do not do such things. Only those who are taught by Christ and strive to keep His commandments do such things. There is nothing contrary to the righteousness of God within Orthodox Christian doctrine and practice, and so we cannot be affected by any nonsensical claims of worshipping falsely.
 
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Can't change the required 3 days AND 3 nights per the prophecy. No cheating!
It's not necessary for us to change the required 3 days And 3 nights per the prophecy, Davy, because Christ's people didn't count days and nights using the same method and mindset that you're using. But this has already been pointed out and demonstrated using the Scriptures themselves. We're not cheating, were merely using the same method that Christ used for counting 3 days and 3 nights, as opposed to the method that you are attempting to foist upon others, which is an incorrect method.
 
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This is from 19th Christian scholar E.W. Bullinger:
So according to Bullinger, the women who were devoted to Christ, waited from Wednesday night until Sunday morning to annoint Jesus body, when they had all of Friday available to arrange access to His tomb? Do you find that to be at all credible?
Bullinger states with supreme confidence that "3 days and 3 nights" cannot be idiom, yet he makes no attempt to explain how Christ was therefore lying whe He stated multiple times that He would rise "on the 3rd day". Since Christ does not lie, this fact alone proves his denial of the idiom is in error.
 
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Some claim the last supper was not the Passover,
but the bible clearly says "the night he was betrayed",
He ate the Passover with his disciples.
Christ had his Apostles plan for a Passover meal, but the details of the Last Supper don't suggest that it was, in reality, a Passover meal.

Note: No lamb, a single cup passed, and of course Our Lord described the meaning differently from that associated with a Passover meal. And then, in addition, he commanded his Apostles to continue to observe IT in the future rather than the customary Passover meal.
 
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If Some event happens from noon till the next noon the Jewish people at the time of Christ would've called that two days even though it was a 24 hour period. @Bro.T have you researched what the author intended the reader to understand?
 
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