The Deaconess Idea Redux

Michie · Jul 17, 2023

The much-anticipated Synod in the fall is to discuss the question of deaconesses. As is the case with so many other stupid ideas, the Protestants have been ahead of us for centuries on the issue.

Here we go again: the much-anticipated Synod in the fall is to discuss the question of deaconesses. As is the case with so many other stupid ideas, the Protestants have been ahead of us for centuries on the issue.

Two anecdotes illustrate my concern about this.

The first occurred when I was on a sabbatical in Providence, Rhode Island. I helped a Catholic campus minister who was working with Newman chaplaincies in a few public college venues. He knew an Episcopalian deaconess who also worked at a community college. I celebrated a Mass one day for a small group, and then the campus minister, the deaconess, and I had lunch together.

Continued below.

The Deaconess Idea Redux

The much-anticipated Synod in the fall is to discuss the question of deaconesses. As is the case with so many other stupid ideas, the Protestants have been ahead of us for centuries on the issue.

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Love365 · Jul 17, 2023

Rich countries and poor countries have a strong disagreement
about gay marriage.

The Catholic Church can’t help poor countries and allow gay marriage.

Gay marriage is illegal in those countries.

Michie · Jul 17, 2023

Love365 said:
Rich countries and poor countries have a strong disagreement
about gay marriage.

The Catholic Church can’t help poor countries and allow gay marriage.

Gay marriage is illegal in those countries.

I have no idea what you are talking about. There is a difference in the teachings of the Catholic Church/theology and different countries opinions/politics. The Church is not of the world but in the world where she is supposed to be the salt and light to the world.

Love365 · Jul 17, 2023

Michie said:
I have no idea what you are talking about. There is a difference in the teachings of the Catholic Church/theology and different countries opinions/politics. The Church is not of the world but in the world where she is supposed to be the salt and light to the world.

They said women deacons were a slippery slope to gay marriage.

They are wrong.

Michie · Jul 17, 2023

Love365 said:
They said women deacons were a slippery slope to gay marriage.

They are wrong.

I don’t think anyone knows that.

chevyontheriver · Jul 17, 2023

Michie said:
I don’t think anyone knows that.

Nor said that women deacons specifically led to fake marriages.

Michie · Jul 17, 2023

chevyontheriver said:
Nor said that women deacons specifically led to fake marriages.

I didn’t see it either.

JimR-OCDS · Jul 18, 2023

Love365 said:
They said women deacons were a slippery slope to gay marriage.

They are wrong.

Actually they were right. If we look at the Episcopalian Church which first allowed women to
be ordained, they then allowed same sex marriage and gay people to receive ordination
despite living in a same-sex relationship. In fact, one even became a bishop.
They're also leaning to pro-abortion currently.

There is a female Episcopalian priest on Christian Forums, who is so far left and anti-male, it's
amazing that she's a priest at all.

WarriorAngel · Jul 18, 2023

There were deaconess only to baptize other women in private.
Their 'ordination' was never like the Deacons.
Which were open for them to go to the priesthood, but not the deaconess.

Love365 · Jul 18, 2023

JimR-OCDS said:
Actually they were right. If we look at the Episcopalian Church which first allowed women to
be ordained, they then allowed same sex marriage and gay people to receive ordination
despite living in a same-sex relationship. In fact, one even became a bishop.
They're also leaning to pro-abortion currently.

The Episcopal Church has become more and more Left wing.
They only need to work in a few blue states in the US.

The Catholic Church needs to work in countries around the world.
The Catholic Church needs to be middle of the road.

Banning women priests after the year 1920,
puts the Catholic Church in danger of becoming too Right wing.

Michie · Jul 18, 2023

Love365 said:
The Episcopal Church has become more and more Left wing.
They only need to work in a few blue states in the US.

The Catholic Church needs to work in countries around the world.
The Catholic Church needs to be middle of the road.

Banning women priests after the year 1920,
puts the Catholic Church in danger of becoming too Right wing.

So we should change the timeless teachings and disciplines of the Church for politics? Nah. We focus on the eternal not the temporal.

JimR-OCDS · Jul 18, 2023

Love365 said:
The Episcopal Church has become more and more Left wing.
They only need to work in a few blue states in the US.

The Catholic Church needs to work in countries around the world.
The Catholic Church needs to be middle of the road.

Banning women priests after the year 1920,
puts the Catholic Church in danger of becoming too Right wing.

The Catholic Church, per St Pope John Paul II, doesn't have the authority to change
the theology prohibiting women to become priest. Christ was a man and the priest
is Christi in persona Christi Capitis.

Therefore, ordination can only be for males, being Christ was a male.

Love365 · Jul 18, 2023

Michie said:
So we should change the timeless teachings and disciplines of the Church for politics? Nah. We focus on the eternal not the temporal.

Could a woman priest pray for the souls in Purgatory?

Michie · Jul 18, 2023

Love365 said:
Could a woman priest pray for the souls in Purgatory?

No because there are no female Catholic priests in the Church. The rest of us females are free to though.

chevyontheriver · Jul 18, 2023

Love365 said:
Could a woman priest pray for the souls in Purgatory?

ANY Christian could pray for the souls in Purgatory. But since ‘women priests’ are not a thing they will not be doing so.

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