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The culture of saying everyone is toxic
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<blockquote data-quote="quintessentialramble" data-source="post: 74145931" data-attributes="member: 407744"><p>"we all desire companions."</p><p></p><p>This shows me that your love is rooted in self-interest, and not agape, unselfish, sacrifical love. It sounds like you love if it pleases you. This was never love.</p><p>Jesus calls every repentant believer FRIENDS and BROTHERS. The reason he uses this word brother is because we would recognize that the bond of family is tighter than any bond. He compares his church as a bride--what is supposed to be the loyalest of the loyal.</p><p>I don't agree with your statement that we don't have to be friends with true believers. The Bible states that our love for the church needs to be greater than the love of those in the world. If you're saying there's no need...you've already failed.</p><p>Where I do think we need to be careful is recognizing a true believer.</p><p></p><p>If you can honestly say you are loving a person but they are not you friend...you do not love them; you are tolerating them and showing acts of charity. But love is deeper than this. Love is built over time and relational. Love is patient love is kind, love is not self-seeking, love is not rude, love keeps NO RECORD OF WRONGS, love rejoices; love reconciles, love forgives. The very nature of our ministry is reconciliation with God alongside forgiveness. What if God said, "I forgive you, but you may not come to me." What kind of love is that? Not one I would want to be a part of.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="quintessentialramble, post: 74145931, member: 407744"] "we all desire companions." This shows me that your love is rooted in self-interest, and not agape, unselfish, sacrifical love. It sounds like you love if it pleases you. This was never love. Jesus calls every repentant believer FRIENDS and BROTHERS. The reason he uses this word brother is because we would recognize that the bond of family is tighter than any bond. He compares his church as a bride--what is supposed to be the loyalest of the loyal. I don't agree with your statement that we don't have to be friends with true believers. The Bible states that our love for the church needs to be greater than the love of those in the world. If you're saying there's no need...you've already failed. Where I do think we need to be careful is recognizing a true believer. If you can honestly say you are loving a person but they are not you friend...you do not love them; you are tolerating them and showing acts of charity. But love is deeper than this. Love is built over time and relational. Love is patient love is kind, love is not self-seeking, love is not rude, love keeps NO RECORD OF WRONGS, love rejoices; love reconciles, love forgives. The very nature of our ministry is reconciliation with God alongside forgiveness. What if God said, "I forgive you, but you may not come to me." What kind of love is that? Not one I would want to be a part of. [/QUOTE]
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