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The Church Of The Firstborn

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Hebrews 12:

22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God,

the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels,

23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered

in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect.

The special relationship of the firstborn revealed through the Son

in God's plan was first manifested with the Passover.

Exodus 13:1
Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying,

2 “Consecrate to Me all the firstborn, whatever opens the womb

among the children of Israel, both of man and beast; it is Mine.”

A Memorial was established acknowledging this Instruction, referred

to as the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

3 And Moses said to the people: “Remember this day in which you went out of Egypt,

out of the house of bondage, for by strength of hand the Lord brought you out of this place.

No leavened bread shall be eaten.

4 On this day you are going out, in the month Abib.

5 And it shall be, when the Lord brings you into the land of the Canaanites

and the Hittites and the Amorites and the Hivites and the Jebusites,

which He swore to your fathers to give you, a land flowing with milk and honey,

that you shall keep this service in this month.

6 Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread, and on the seventh day

there shall be a feast to the Lord.

The sanctification of the firstborn was transferred to the tribe of Levi,

when they were chosen to serve the Sanctuary.

Numbers 3:


11 Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying:

12 “Now behold, I Myself have taken the Levites from among the children of Israel

instead of every firstborn who opens the womb among the children of Israel.

Therefore, the Levites shall be Mine,

13 because all the firstborn are Mine. On the day that I struck all the firstborn

in the land of Egypt, I sanctified to Myself all the firstborn in Israel,

both man and beast. They shall be Mine: I am the Lord.”

Thus, a quantitative relationship was established between the priesthood

and the firstborn males in Israel of natural childbirth.
 

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Hebrews 12:

22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God,

the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels,

23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered

in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect.

The special relationship of the firstborn revealed through the Son

in God's plan was first manifested with the Passover.

Exodus 13:1
Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying,

2 “Consecrate to Me all the firstborn, whatever opens the womb

among the children of Israel, both of man and beast; it is Mine.”

A Memorial was established acknowledging this Instruction, referred

to as the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

3 And Moses said to the people: “Remember this day in which you went out of Egypt,

out of the house of bondage, for by strength of hand the Lord brought you out of this place.

No leavened bread shall be eaten.

4 On this day you are going out, in the month Abib.


5 And it shall be, when the Lord brings you into the land of the Canaanites

and the Hittites and the Amorites and the Hivites and the Jebusites,

which He swore to your fathers to give you, a land flowing with milk and honey,

that you shall keep this service in this month.

6 Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread, and on the seventh day

there shall be a feast to the Lord.

The sanctification of the firstborn was transferred to the tribe of Levi,

when they were chosen to serve the Sanctuary.

Numbers 3:


11 Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying:

12 “Now behold, I Myself have taken the Levites from among the children of Israel

instead of every firstborn who opens the womb among the children of Israel.

Therefore, the Levites shall be Mine,

13 because all the firstborn are Mine. On the day that I struck all the firstborn

in the land of Egypt, I sanctified to Myself all the firstborn in Israel,

both man and beast. They shall be Mine: I am the Lord.”

Thus, a quantitative relationship was established between the priesthood

and the firstborn males in Israel of natural childbirth.
The " Church of the First Born" are in the Body of Christ not the tribe of Levi. Hebrews is speaking of the " New Covenant " through Jesus Christ of Nazareth and not the Old Covenant through Moses.
Blessings.
 
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Yes, God intended to show a preeminence in families, indicating that God is selective about His operations in families and in nations. He can select to give particular gifts to individuals in families and to groups to perform certain functions and to provide order.

For example, God has every right to appoint a man the head of a household, as opposed to his wife and children. And he can appoint some individuals to certain occupations, whether king or priest. God has the right to sanction and defend certain positional individuals and responsibilities. This may be done in the name of order and function.

God used firstborn children to show that it was God who determines the order of birth among siblings. This was a temporary statement made by God, and was transferrable from firstborn to priestly class. This may have followed the evolution from families in smaller tribes to entire nations. The firstborn performed a vital function early on in the structure of families within tribes. But later, the priests provided order for citizens of an entire tribe or nation.

Ultimately, God selects Christians within nations as His unique priestly class, to provide the ideal for all nations. As Christ was unique among men, so Christians are to be unique in the world.
 
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The " Church of the First Born" are in the Body of Christ not the tribe of Levi. Hebrews is speaking of the " New Covenant " through Jesus Christ of Nazareth and not the Old Covenant through Moses.
Blessings.
Of course. The point is that when Levi was chosen, they were tied numerically to the first-born males who "opened the matrix". The first-born are the Lord's possession. Reading the entire chapter 3 of Numbers gives a better understanding of what that relationship established. At that time, there were more first-born males than Levites requiring a redemption price. If on the other hand the number of chosen exceeded the number of first-born, this would not be necessary. There is instruction and revelation in the Old Testament types.
 
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The " Church of the First Born" are in the Body of Christ not the tribe of Levi. Hebrews is speaking of the " New Covenant " through Jesus Christ of Nazareth and not the Old Covenant through Moses.
Blessings.
Hebrews 7:
11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood.

This change in the priesthood makes no change to the relationship to the consecration of the firstborn unto the Lord in Exodus 13. This is a numerical or quantitative relationship, and the scripture has not been broken. The relationship between the priesthood and the firstborn remains in place.
 
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Note :requires natural childbirth, (excludes C-section birth)

Exodus 13:1 Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying,
2 “Consecrate to Me all the firstborn, whatever opens the womb
among the children of Israel, both of man and beast; it is Mine.”

The medal was issued principally to make it possible to redeem the first born son from his sacred obligations, with five silver shekels. The redemption act is also a reminder of the fact that the first born escaped the fate of the Egyptian first born. The first born were intended to minister as priests to the people. However, since the Levites and the priests, descendents of Aaron, were found to be more suitable for sacred service, God commanded us to redeem our first-born sons by purchasing their exemption from this high office. In the response volume "Yechaveh De'ah", Halacha corner, fourth section, by Chief Rabbi Obadyah Joseph, it is stated, "30 draham of pure silver, or its equivalent in value, would be sufficient for the act of redemption. However, according to the custom established in Jerusalem for many past generations, we must give 31 draham pure silver, or its equivalent, which amounts to one hundred grams of pure silver". The weight of a draham is 3.2 gram. Therefore, it follows that as five Pidyon Haben medals contain 102.85 grams of pure silver (each medal weighs 20.57 grams pure silver) the total exceeds somewhat the weight of the sacred shekels mentioned in the Torah.
 
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