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The Christian Right is Helping Drive Liberals Away From Religion
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<blockquote data-quote="carp614" data-source="post: 74310623" data-attributes="member: 386520"><p>Pick any scenario or example you like. Replace the word homosexuality with any other sin you care to and the logic stands. That said, disliking self righteousness is almost as universal as sin is, so I find myself in full agreement with you there. </p><p></p><p>My point is that the church is not doing the driving away work, culture is. You said if you heard a preacher say something like that you would walk out. That's good and I share your attitude about it. I'm simply pointing out that I have never had to actually walk out because the leader of the church, the pastors I have heard, <em>never</em> say those sorts of things. My guess is you have never had to walk out either. Because the kinds of statements we are talking about don't come from the authentic church leadership on the right, who are for the most part loving, kind, and Christlike. They come from regular people who are ignorant of the true meaning of the Gospel and have their own hang ups and hurts coming out. </p><p></p><p>Similarly, vilifying conservative Christianity or blaming people leaving the church on the religious right is a red herring. If the mere existence of hypocrites and self righteous people is sufficient reason for a person to walk away from the Gospel, then they have failed to grasp the message of the Gospel and the requirements of Discipleship to begin with. </p><p></p><p>Culture is driving people away from he church, not the religious right.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="carp614, post: 74310623, member: 386520"] Pick any scenario or example you like. Replace the word homosexuality with any other sin you care to and the logic stands. That said, disliking self righteousness is almost as universal as sin is, so I find myself in full agreement with you there. My point is that the church is not doing the driving away work, culture is. You said if you heard a preacher say something like that you would walk out. That's good and I share your attitude about it. I'm simply pointing out that I have never had to actually walk out because the leader of the church, the pastors I have heard, [I]never[/I] say those sorts of things. My guess is you have never had to walk out either. Because the kinds of statements we are talking about don't come from the authentic church leadership on the right, who are for the most part loving, kind, and Christlike. They come from regular people who are ignorant of the true meaning of the Gospel and have their own hang ups and hurts coming out. Similarly, vilifying conservative Christianity or blaming people leaving the church on the religious right is a red herring. If the mere existence of hypocrites and self righteous people is sufficient reason for a person to walk away from the Gospel, then they have failed to grasp the message of the Gospel and the requirements of Discipleship to begin with. Culture is driving people away from he church, not the religious right. [/QUOTE]
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