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<blockquote data-quote="NotreDame" data-source="post: 74310313" data-attributes="member: 212558"><p>Nothing you just said demonstrates you and your doctrinal beliefs are "correct." The fact you can trace the origin of your doctrinal beliefs to 70 C.E. does not demonstrate those doctrinal beliefs are correct. Alleging to have traced those doctrinal beliefs to the apostles, a dubious claim indeed but assuming you can, that is also not convincing. The veracity of your doctrinal beliefs is not demonstrated by alleging the source of those doctrinal beliefs to be the apostles. A belief originating with the apostles is not correct because the belief originated with the apostles. A belief is not true because of the person who is the source of the belief. Humans are flawed, they make mistakes, and are renown for espousing mistaken beliefs. Quite possibly, all you may have is a very old incorrect belief, an incorrect belief dating back to 70 C.E.</p><p></p><p>There are contemporary Christians today who can trace their beliefs to the very early Christian church era and, doctrinally, there is nothing to support their wacky beliefs. But according to you, their beliefs are correct because of their age and lineage, two things which absolutely have nothing to do with the veracity of their beliefs.</p><p></p><p>Current day flat earth Christians and geocentric Christians invoke scripture for their beliefs the earth is flat and at the center of the solar system. They have the benefit of tracing those beliefs back to the era of the early Christian church, or further back. Yet, those beliefs are not doctrinally sound because of age, history, or source.</p><p></p><p>Neither is "new age stuff" mistaken because it is "new" or relatively "new." That logic is ponderous. Based on this reasoning, some Christians and denominations adopting a heliocentric view, and also of the belief the earth was spherical as opposed to flat, were wrong because the heliocentric view was "new age stuff" when compared to the geocentric and flat earth belief.</p><p></p><p>You have said absolutely nothing that sensibly or rationally establishes your doctrinal beliefs are correct and those doctrinal beliefs on the subjects matter you referenced are incorrect. Nothing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NotreDame, post: 74310313, member: 212558"] Nothing you just said demonstrates you and your doctrinal beliefs are "correct." The fact you can trace the origin of your doctrinal beliefs to 70 C.E. does not demonstrate those doctrinal beliefs are correct. Alleging to have traced those doctrinal beliefs to the apostles, a dubious claim indeed but assuming you can, that is also not convincing. The veracity of your doctrinal beliefs is not demonstrated by alleging the source of those doctrinal beliefs to be the apostles. A belief originating with the apostles is not correct because the belief originated with the apostles. A belief is not true because of the person who is the source of the belief. Humans are flawed, they make mistakes, and are renown for espousing mistaken beliefs. Quite possibly, all you may have is a very old incorrect belief, an incorrect belief dating back to 70 C.E. There are contemporary Christians today who can trace their beliefs to the very early Christian church era and, doctrinally, there is nothing to support their wacky beliefs. But according to you, their beliefs are correct because of their age and lineage, two things which absolutely have nothing to do with the veracity of their beliefs. Current day flat earth Christians and geocentric Christians invoke scripture for their beliefs the earth is flat and at the center of the solar system. They have the benefit of tracing those beliefs back to the era of the early Christian church, or further back. Yet, those beliefs are not doctrinally sound because of age, history, or source. Neither is "new age stuff" mistaken because it is "new" or relatively "new." That logic is ponderous. Based on this reasoning, some Christians and denominations adopting a heliocentric view, and also of the belief the earth was spherical as opposed to flat, were wrong because the heliocentric view was "new age stuff" when compared to the geocentric and flat earth belief. You have said absolutely nothing that sensibly or rationally establishes your doctrinal beliefs are correct and those doctrinal beliefs on the subjects matter you referenced are incorrect. Nothing. [/QUOTE]
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