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Why so sensitive, Nano?
I thought I would follow the teaching being expressed and hash out a few biblical rebukes, wherever they may land. Is there some sort of problem with that? What happened to wanting this to be a place for those with a "biblical" mindset?
I really don't care about appearances dude, or what people think about me.
I think we've all completely ruined the actual purpose of this thread.
Yes, but I want to think better of you, so be nice for my sake.
Is there a thread here that hasn't gotten ruined?
I don't see the point in being permanently celibate.
Is there a thread here that hasn't gotten ruined?
I don't see the point in being permanently celibate.
Celibacy is a good thing. Unless you're married. Then it's bad.
This does seem to encapsulate some of the issues that have arisen regarding directives to refrain from extramarital sex. Basically, nobody would have conceived of 30-year-old single people or 40-year-old divorced people who had been married 20 years already. I don't think God was trying to create 40-year-old virgins. So how should sexual purity be maintained when marriage may well be when one is 30, or 40, or 50? Or what about when you've been married before (or frankly, not married before) and already had sexual relations?
Also, it's not like there's a switch that just flips. First sex was bad (because it was extramarital) but then it's good (because it's marital). How is that reconciled?
While refraining from sex is going to be the best idea, can we also discuss it in the light of current western culture being a whole lot different from the culture of 2000 years ago?
This does seem to encapsulate some of the issues that have arisen regarding directives to refrain from extramarital sex. Basically, nobody would have conceived of 30-year-old single people or 40-year-old divorced people who had been married 20 years already. I don't think God was trying to create 40-year-old virgins. So how should sexual purity be maintained when marriage may well be when one is 30, or 40, or 50? Or what about when you've been married before (or frankly, not married before) and already had sexual relations?
Also, it's not like there's a switch that just flips. First sex was bad (because it was extramarital) but then it's good (because it's marital). How is that reconciled?
While refraining from sex is going to be the best idea, can we also discuss it in the light of current western culture being a whole lot different from the culture of 2000 years ago?
What's it matter if a 40 year-old is a virgin? Or a 50 year-old, or a 60 year-old, for that matter? They're still expected to obey God.
And I know, I know, the culture does its best to convince us all that sex is the absolute pinnacle of life, but it's not. Trust me.
Absolutely true on both accounts, but I'm just wondering if sexual abstinence is becoming an idol when it's lasting a whole lot longer than it was intended to last. Then again, in a society that's hugely oversexed, maybe an idol of abstinence isn't so bad.
Absolutely true on both accounts, but I'm just wondering if sexual abstinence is becoming an idol when it's lasting a whole lot longer than it was intended to last. Then again, in a society that's hugely oversexed, maybe an idol of abstinence isn't so bad.
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