The Calvinistic dogma of Limited Omnipotence

[ConquerorPlus]

This is the elephant in the room; the widely held but unspoken Calvinistic dogma of Limited Omnipotence, whereby God is limited by followers of Calvin to speaking only through His scriptures.

If Calvinists did hear the word of God, as they claim,
then they would not come up with this kind of nonsense!

Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit (Mark 13:11).

 

[Albion]

This is the elephant in the room; the widely held but unspoken Calvinistic dogma of Limited Omnipotence, whereby God is limited by followers of Calvin to speaking only through His scriptures.

If Calvinists did hear the word of God, as they claim,
then they would not come up with this kind of nonsense!

Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit (Mark 13:11).

Being able to do anything does not mean that you have done everything that's possible.

God communicated to Man by inspiring the writers of the Bible books. While he could have chosen some other method, there is no particular reason to think he did so, not even if you come up with some impressive-sounding term like "Limited Omnipotence" (which, of course, is an oxymoron because it literally means "NOT omnipotent").

 

[JoeP222w]

This is the elephant in the room; the widely held but unspoken Calvinistic dogma of Limited Omnipotence, whereby God is limited by followers of Calvin to speaking only through His scriptures.

If Calvinists did hear the word of God, as they claim,
then they would not come up with this kind of nonsense!

Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit (Mark 13:11).

"widely held but unspoken Calvinistic dogma"

Can something be "widely held" and "unspoken"? That is a self refuting claim.

I think you are very much mischaracterizing Calvinism.

Calvinists do not claim that God is limited by Calvinists (or anyone else). God chose to speak through His scriptures for all time.

And I don't believe that Mark 13:11 strictly applies to all believers of all time that they can say whatever they want, and at the very least, whatever a believer may utter, if they claim it is "from God", it will never contradict scripture. I think that passage primarily applied to the Apostles of that time, in that location.

 

[Albion]

"widely held but unspoken Calvinistic dogma" = Something that is Not a Calvinistic dogma.

 

[ConquerorPlus]

Your comment about Mark 13:11 is a typical example of the dogma of Limited Omnipotence, as you DON"T BELIEVE that this applies to all those, who preach to all the nations (Mk 13:10). Only the apostles are supported by God and the rest is left to their own devices. That confirms the dogma of Limited Omnipotence in your world-view apart from a few exceptions.

 

[Thursday]

Your comment about Mark 13:11 is a typical example of the dogma of Limited Omnipotence, as you DON"T BELIEVE that this applies to all those, who preach to all the nations (Mk 13:10). Only the apostles are supported by God and the rest is left to their own devices. That confirms the dogma of Limited Omnipotence in your world-view apart from a few exceptions.

That's not Calvinist, that's Catholic, and it is true.

Jesus gave unique authority to the leaders of his Church.

 

[ConquerorPlus]

Being able to do anything does not mean that you have done everything that's possible.

God communicated to Man by inspiring the writers of the Bible books. While he could have chosen some other method, there is no particular reason to think he did so, not even if you come up with some impressive-sounding term like "Limited Omnipotence" (which, of course, is an oxymoron because it literally means "NOT omnipotent").

Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit (Mark 13:11).

This verse completely refutes your stance, while it may not contradict scripture, the Lord SPEAKS! Whatever isn't limited to scripture! You too believe in the dogma of Limited Omnipotence, whereby you basically limit God to speaking only in accord with the scriptures. It is certainly widely held and this UNBELIEF is never spoken about.

 

[Thursday]

Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit (Mark 13:11).

This verse completely refutes your stance, while it may not contradict scripture, the Lord SPEAKS! Whatever isn't limited to scripture! You too believe in the dogma of Limited Omnipotence, whereby you basically limit God to speaking only in accord with the scriptures. It is certainly widely held and this UNBELIEF is never spoken about.

Who was Jesus talking to?

 

[ConquerorPlus]

Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit (Mark 13:11).

This verse completely refutes your stance, while it may not contradict scripture, the Lord SPEAKS! Whatever isn't limited to scripture! You too believe in the dogma of Limited Omnipotence, whereby you basically limit God to speaking only in accord with the scriptures. It is certainly widely held and this UNBELIEF is never spoken about.

Who was Jesus talking to?

The disciples, however the command to preach the gospel to all nations (v10) is for all. Are you suggesting that this verse is written only for the apostles and has no further relevance at all? In that case why do you bother to comment about it?

 

[Thursday]

Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit (Mark 13:11).

This verse completely refutes your stance, while it may not contradict scripture, the Lord SPEAKS!

You didn't answer my question.

Who is Jesus speaking to?

I'll answer for you, since you don't seem to want to:

3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter, James, John and Andrew asked him privately,

 

[ConquerorPlus]

The disciples, however the command to preach the gospel to all nations (v10) is for all. Are you suggesting that this verse is written only for the apostles and has no further relevance at all? In that case why do you bother to comment about it?

You didn't answer my question.

Who is Jesus speaking to?

I'll answer for you, since you don't seem to want to:

3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter, James, John and Andrew asked him privately,

Please read my post again and take particular note of the first two words.

 

[Thursday]

The disciples, however the command to preach the gospel to all nations (v10) is for all. Are you suggesting that this verse is written only for the apostles and has no further relevance at all? In that case why do you bother to comment about it?




Please read my post again and take particular note of the first two words.

Who is you?

3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter, James, John and Andrew asked him privately,

 

[ConquerorPlus]

Who is you?

3As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter, James, John and Andrew asked him privately,

Weren't they disciples?
What is your point? You have to be very clear with Christians, as they don't have your type of understanding!

 

[Thursday]

Weren't they disciples?
What is your point? You have to be very clear with Christians, as they don't have your type of understanding!

There were disciples AND they were the leaders of the Church.

They were given the authority to bind and loose as well as the authority to forgive sins.

 

[Albion]

Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit (Mark 13:11).

This verse completely refutes your stance, while it may not contradict scripture, the Lord SPEAKS! Whatever isn't limited to scripture!

Whoa. This isn't speaking of doctrine or obligations. Yes, we may receive inspiration under certain circumstances, but this has nothing to do with Calvinism, Five points, OSAS, Predestination, or anything to do with dogma or salvation. You're not talking about revelation there at all.

 

[ConquerorPlus]

Whoa. This isn't speaking of doctrine or obligations. Yes, we may receive inspiration under certain circumstances, but this has nothing to do with Calvinism, Five points, OSAS, Predestination, or anything to do with dogma or salvation. You're not talking about revelation there at all.

Again that unspoken dogma of Limited Omnipotence raises its ugly head!

 

[Albion]

Again that unspoken dogma of Limited Omnipotence raises its ugly head!

No one's buying that "Limited Omnipotence" idea you came up with, CP. And considering that it's a contradiction in terms, they're not going to.

 

[ConquerorPlus]

No one's buying that "Limited Omnipotence" idea you came up with, CP. And considering that it's a contradiction in terms, they're not going to.

It is truly an unspoken dogma of Limited Omnipotence. You are effectively limiting God by stating; "Yes, we may receive inspiration under certain circumstances"
It is indeed a contradiction in terms, but your life is ruled by it!

 

[Albion]

It is truly an unspoken dogma of Limited Omnipotence. You are effectively limiting God by stating; "Yes, we may receive inspiration under certain circumstances"
It is indeed a contradiction in terms, but your life is ruled by it!

I know this won't make any difference to you, but I haven't limited God in any way nor have I said anything that would imply such a view.

 

[ConquerorPlus]

I know this won't make any difference to you, but I haven't limited God in any way nor have I said anything that would imply such a view.

Quote; "Yes, we may receive inspiration under certain circumstances"