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The Bonobo and the Atheist
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<blockquote data-quote="Chesterton" data-source="post: 71316013" data-attributes="member: 225709"><p>First, reading the "minds" of animals is even harder than reading the minds of humans. If you see an animal perform an action it's complete speculation as to what's going on. If I see a man leave a generous tip for a waitperson, I have no idea what his motivation is. Is he being thoughtful and kind, or is he trying to look like a bigshot, or trying to avoid looking like a jerk? Sometimes I have trouble sussing out my own motivations for things.</p><p></p><p>Second, morality in the modern sense is a cheap business transaction - you be good to me and I'll be good to you in return, and hopefully then we can get along without killing each other off. Ancient people, atheist, pagan and Christian alike, talked about "virtue", something admirable. So what difference does it make if this modern scientific idea of morality evolved? It would be as informative as discovering that Capitalism evolved.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chesterton, post: 71316013, member: 225709"] First, reading the "minds" of animals is even harder than reading the minds of humans. If you see an animal perform an action it's complete speculation as to what's going on. If I see a man leave a generous tip for a waitperson, I have no idea what his motivation is. Is he being thoughtful and kind, or is he trying to look like a bigshot, or trying to avoid looking like a jerk? Sometimes I have trouble sussing out my own motivations for things. Second, morality in the modern sense is a cheap business transaction - you be good to me and I'll be good to you in return, and hopefully then we can get along without killing each other off. Ancient people, atheist, pagan and Christian alike, talked about "virtue", something admirable. So what difference does it make if this modern scientific idea of morality evolved? It would be as informative as discovering that Capitalism evolved. [/QUOTE]
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