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If you don't want to look for them, that's your prerogative; but then don't tell me they never existed and expect me to take you seriously.No reason to. No reason to take any of your unevidenced animals seriously.
No reason to believe that they ever existed. It remains your claim and if you wish anyone remotely interested or slanted towards empiricism to be interested or take what you claim seriously - then you need to back it up. If you cannot or will not then this thread has no place in this subforum.If you don't want to look for them, that's your prerogative; but then don't tell me they never existed and expect me to take you seriously.
So what was the point? You inherently believe everyone here happens to be flaming liars as well. Why do you bother?Besides, I wouldn't believe you if you did look for them and tell me they don't exist -- so I'm surely not going to believe you if you didn't.
Says you.No reason to believe that they ever existed.
See picture above.It remains your claim and if you wish anyone remotely interested or slanted towards empiricism to be interested or take what you claim seriously - then you need to back it up.
Whether this thread is misplaced or not has no bearing on the veracity of its claim.If you cannot or will not then this thread has no place in this subforum.
That's just too cheap to respond to.So what was the point? You inherently believe everyone here happens to be flaming liars as well. Why do you bother?
No reason to believe the Bible is true.AV said:Says you.
I've got a very powerful Reason to believe:
See picture above.
Indeed. But it speaks volumes about your willingness to deliberately troll others in the subforum.Whether this thread is misplaced or not has no bearing on the veracity of its claim.
I'm so ashamed. A good job, AV then that I would never join an expedition to look for legends of old, or mythological creatures. The fact now that you are defending those who have conformation bias speaks volumes about how you don't understand how evidence is most appropriately and accurately gathered.Cryptozoology, while viewed by some as pseudoscience, still is a viable endeavor for many, and I'm sure cryptozoologists don't start out by saying, "These animals don't exist."
If I was funding a search for the Loch Ness Monster, and someone on the team had your outlook -- I'd have him fired.
It was not a rhetorical question, nor a deliberate cheap point - I was actually asking you. You seem to believe that you can predict everyone's responses, or understand that they are being willingly deceptive. You concede that you are incapable of evidencing your beliefs and indeed, one of the phrases you are legendary for is "Science can take a hike" - so why do you bother posting in a scientific subforum?That's just too cheap to respond to.
If you want to drag empiricism and your substandard science into this thread, that's your prerogative; but I have listed eight animals in the OP that empiricists like to whine and pout over, and bring up in our faces once in awhile.What part of an empiricist being interested did you not get?
Good -- then take your myopic, dead science elsewhere and try and convince someone who doesn't know their Bibles how big and tough your cheap, weak, junk science really is -- (by comparison).Referencing the Bible to an empiricist asking for evidence for the animals in the OP would be ridiculous.
Oh, but it's okay for you guys to constantly bring up how four-legged grasshoppers are examples of ignorant Bible writing, but I start a thread on it and I'm trolling?Indeed. But it speaks volumes about your willingness to deliberately troll others in the subforum.
AV, I'd say it is mandatory given the sub-forum we're in (physical & life sciences).AV said:If you want to drag empiricism and your substandard science into this thread, that's your prerogative; but I have listed eight animals in the OP that empiricists like to whine and pout over, and bring up in our faces once in awhile.
They're not as problematic as you think they are at all. They have no evidence. There is no reason to accept them. If, of course you hold a notion that empiricism, rationalism and the scientific method mean something (which of course, lots and lots of people do).Well, in this thread, I'm bring it up in yours.
These creatures are problematic for you without evidence (going by what you guys say), so think how problematic they would be if there was evidence.
Except this is the subforum of Physical & Life Sciences.Good -- then take your myopic, dead science elsewhere and try and convince someone who doesn't know their Bibles how big and tough your cheap, weak, junk science really is -- (by comparison).
They're presumably used in the context of Creationists who make pseudo-scientific claims directly designed to attempt to refute evolution. You do not see the literal beliefs of Scientologists posted on here, nor the literal beliefs of all sorts of religious groups that hold unevidenced and incoherent ideas to be literally true - because they do not attempt to dishonestly set themselves up in the scientific arena.Oh, but it's okay for you guys to constantly bring up how four-legged grasshoppers are examples of ignorant Bible writing, but I start a thread on it and I'm trolling?
That's just too cheap to respond to.
Oh, but it's okay for you guys to constantly bring up how four-legged grasshoppers are examples of ignorant Bible writing, but I start a thread on it and I'm trolling?
I disagree.They're not as problematic as you think they are at all.
And Heaven help taxonomists if all eight animals in the OP are found at once!
So no use even looking for them? or do you like looking for things that "don't exist"?Until that day, they don't exist.
I wish you did -- (pssst, and it's 'kingdom', not 'world').I'd love to live in your world, really.
Nope -- I'm restricted to what I can believe in; and being a literalist, I am even more restricted in what I can and can't believe than my liberal brothers and sisters.It seems anything is possible, and any fictional characters can exist.
As Bob Larson put it, how do you bust a ghost, other than through the power of the Holy Ghost?Maybe I could finally get my dream job of being a Ghostbuster, then.
So no use even looking for them? or do you like looking for things that "don't exist"?
I wish you did -- (pssst, and it's 'kingdom', not 'world').
Nope -- I'm restricted to what I can believe in; and being a literalist, I am even more restricted in what I can and can't believe than my liberal brothers and sisters.
As Bob Larson put it, how do you bust a ghost, other than through the power of the Holy Ghost?
See? I can't even join Bill Murray's outfit!
But if you want the number of Who you're gonna call -- it's Jeremiah 333.
Jeremiah 33:3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.
I propose that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the death knell of Christianity. If you don't want to look for him, that's your prerogative; but then don't tell me they never existed and expect me to take you seriously.If you don't want to look for them, that's your prerogative; but then don't tell me they never existed and expect me to take you seriously.
Besides, I wouldn't believe you if you did look for them and tell me they don't exist -- so I'm surely not going to believe you if you didn't.
I propose that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the death knell of Christianity. If you don't want to look for him, that's your prerogative; but then don't tell me they never existed and expect me to take you seriously.
Better yet, let the Bible pare your list down.In that case, we should go looking for EVERYTHING ever thought up by man, because, hey, you know, it might be real!
Show me this thing's kingdom, complete with serious followers who are willing to die for it, or it can take a hike.I propose that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the death knell of Christianity.
Is this what you had in mind?Better yet, let the Bible pare your list down.
Search for things that can be backed up from Someone Who was there.
Let man think it up -- let God sort it out.
Fromm BBC news:Show me this thing's kingdom, complete with serious followers who are willing to die for it, or it can take a hike.
Better yet, let the Bible pare your list down.
Search for things that can be backed up from Someone Who was there.
Let man think it up -- let God sort it out.
No.Is this what you had in mind?
That's kinda what I thought.I propose that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the death knell of Christianity. If you don't want to look for him, that's your prerogative; but then don't tell me they never existed and expect me to take you seriously.
Show me this thing's kingdom, complete with serious followers who are willing to die for it, or it can take a hike.
Fromm BBC news:
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