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The Beginning
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<blockquote data-quote="SelfSim" data-source="post: 77553684" data-attributes="member: 354922"><p>The model of 'the Universe' was most likely created originally, from our visual perceptions (although a lot more human-ness has been thrown into it since). There is no need for it to <em><u>necessarily</u></em> refer to it as <em>'a something'</em> existing independently from the descriptive model, although we all seem addicted to that belief .. (myself included). That belief adds nothing to scientific models, as it cannot be objectively tested. It is an <em>optional</em> belief. The only difference, perhaps, between you and me, is that I know its <em>a belief.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>'Orderliness'</em> is a model conceived by the mind too .. one could argue that its one of the basics for us to make sense of our perceptions. Again, its origin is a creation by our own mind .. and only <em>perhaps,</em> (and undemonstrably), something beyond it (which make it a comforting belief).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SelfSim, post: 77553684, member: 354922"] The model of 'the Universe' was most likely created originally, from our visual perceptions (although a lot more human-ness has been thrown into it since). There is no need for it to [I][U]necessarily[/U][/I] refer to it as [I]'a something'[/I] existing independently from the descriptive model, although we all seem addicted to that belief .. (myself included). That belief adds nothing to scientific models, as it cannot be objectively tested. It is an [I]optional[/I] belief. The only difference, perhaps, between you and me, is that I know its [I]a belief. 'Orderliness'[/I] is a model conceived by the mind too .. one could argue that its one of the basics for us to make sense of our perceptions. Again, its origin is a creation by our own mind .. and only [I]perhaps,[/I] (and undemonstrably), something beyond it (which make it a comforting belief). [/QUOTE]
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