it deals with the descent and modification of life, and yes, it is limited in it's scope. but most study of evolution is study of other, very complex and wide rangind disciplines, from paeleantology to molecular biology. "evolution" is simply a model of how it all came to be.JohnR7 said:If all evolution deals with are the species, does that not make it rather narrow in it's scope?
those would be americans. and the truth is not determined by the numbers of people who believe something.JohnR7 said:According to a gallop poll:
10% believe that evolution occured without God's help.
39% believe that God guided evolution.
44% believe that God created humans in the last 10,000 years.
7% have no opinion.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/evolutionviews990816.html
not entirely, there are things in the atmosphere that are only there because of lifeJohnR7 said:That does not explain how the atmosphere,
it's not meant to.the earth,
"environment" and it's not meant to.the invironment,
"solar" and it's not meant tothe solor system,
it's not meant to.much less the universe came into being.
well natural selection got rid of them for "some reason" depending on the environment. other than that, it doesn't tell us that a meteor hit the planet, but then it's not meant to.Even evolution can not explain why so many of the species are extinct.
no no, if one of them wasn't there... we wouldn't exist.. that is not the same as life wouldn't exist... look up extremophiles.... animals that life in crazy places like boiling water, hydrothermal vents, buried caves full of nasty lethal chemicals, and lakes under glaciers and ice caps.Northern Christian said:So many contributing factors essential to life on earth being possible. If even one of them wasn't there, life wouldn't exist. But all of it just came together on it's own. Give me a break.
we have to, because it's incredibly irritating. It is like me just referring to you as theists, and lumping in everyone from creationists to buddhists to roman god worshippers.. essentially the "evolutionist" tag is one created with the intention of obfuscation of the sciences (just look at how many times badfish has said "you think we evolved from a singularity", despite repeatedly being told otherwise, and how many times creationists immediately say "LOL u think we evolved from a rock") and the attempt to make evolution look like a religion, which it is not.Joshua777777 said:*sigh* In creation the beginning of the universe, of the earth, and of life is all grouped. That's the *only* reason we use the term Evolutionist to broadly. It's what we are used to. Next time, please don't post two pages complaining about that before answering the question.
Joshua777777 said:*sigh* In creation the beginning of the universe, of the earth, and of life is all grouped. That's the *only* reason we use the term Evolutionist to broadly. It's what we are used to. Next time, please don't post two pages complaining about that before answering the question.
Joshua777777 said:Ok ok, I'll try to use the word Science in place of Evolution when talking about a genral topic. Happy?And no, I wouldn't mind being called a Theist because all that says is I believe in a God. I would go into a rant about why I think evolution is a religion and in reality has little to do with science, but it would be kind of useless at this point as I'm still working on the argument, and the fact that this thread is getting to long already.
I would feel like you have created my own personal heaven for me, thankyouJoshua777777 said:Ok ok, I'll try to use the word Science in place of Evolution when talking about a genral topic. Happy?
but not if I started inappropriately using theism to tell you that you believed in more God, or nirvana or something else. This is the problem that scientists have. people start talking about evolution and then wander off to talk about big bang cosmology as if it is even remotely relevant.And no, I wouldn't mind being called a Theist because all that says is I believe in a God.
well feel free to start a new threadI would go into a rant about why I think evolution is a religion and in reality has little to do with science, but it would be kind of useless at this point as I'm still working on the argument, and the fact that this thread is getting to long already.
Because when you read about things that have nothing to do with evolution, like geology, they keep claiming that evolution has something to do with it.Jet Black said:why do you keep trying to say that evolution has anything to do with all thest things that are irrelevant? we don't criticise electromegnetism because it doesn't explain why things fall.
like when?JohnR7 said:Because when you read about things that have nothing to do with evolution, like geology, they keep claiming that evolution has something to do with it.
'They' being creationists?JohnR7 said:Because when you read about things that have nothing to do with evolution, like geology, they keep claiming that evolution has something to do with it.
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