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Hello Mark,
I think the point of view you have stated probably has more to do with what was initially in place in the early days of the Church generally, than what takes place now, and celebrating the lives of faithful men and women who have gone to be with the L-rd is a reasonable thing to do in the sight of G-d...it was when these things developed and wandered into the realms of religious fantasy that disagreement occured.
Personally I can see that it is possible that Mary was air-lifted into Glory, but I think that such an occurance would have caused ripples that would have been picked up in the teachings and accounts left by the Apostles, so my only honest option is to put it on the back-burner of vague possibilities.
The other thing that makes me seriously doubt its occurance is that it has become part of main-stream Catholic dogma, amongst which I am discovering practices and teachings that are so unbiblical I am spiritually stunned at times....therefore it does nothing to weaken my personal convictions regarding the theory of Mary's assumption...especially as I also believe that Catholic doctrine painted itself into a corner when they realised certain repercussions that must occur in their doctrine of her sinless perfection, which I presume the Lutheran communion do not accept.
To disprove the doctrine of Mary's assumption, one only need go to the Word of God.
There is not one human being who has risen from the grave since Christ's ascension, nor will there be one to rise from the grave until that trump sounds that heralds the Lord's coming in the clouds to wake those who are asleep and to call His body into the clouds to be with Him.
It must also be noted that the common belief in the Catholic church is that Mary died sometime between 30 and 60 A.D. and that the Apostles went to her tomb one day and found it empty. Upon finding it empty, they began the doctrine of the assumption.
Now, if such an event actually happened, surely the Apostles would have spoken of such an event in their letters to Ephesus, Corinth, Thessalonica, and other Churches. They did not.
Conveniently, the doctrine did not arise until years after the Apostles had all died so the Apostles could not refute the false claim of her assumption.
It is the same with many of the Marian doctrines found within the Catholic church. They arose years after the last book of the Bible was written. So those who knew Mary, who walked with Mary, could not defend the truth against their ungodly doctrines.
Convenient, eh?
She doesn't. She only talked to the people in her lifetime on earth. She no longer talks to people.
LS...claiming a miraculous vision, does not authenticate it is from G-d...even if there are millions of them, that is not the criteria for judging either their authenticity or their genesis. If the Catholic religion has become susceptible to these sort of visitations, and judges them as authentic, even when the message and the message bearer are at variance to the Gospel preached by the Apostles...don't you think deceiving spirits are going to promote this kind of activity?
Paris, France: The Holy Mother appeared to a nun in 1830 and asked her to fashion a medal to commemorate the Immaculate Conception.
LS...claiming a miraculous vision, does not authenticate it is from G-d...even if there are millions of them, that is not the criteria for judging either their authenticity or their genesis. If the Catholic religion has become susceptible to these sort of visitations, and judges them as authentic, even when the message and the message bearer are at variance to the Gospel preached by the Apostles...don't you think deceiving spirits are going to promote this kind of activity?
For example...
What the apparition is doing, is confirming a non-biblical doctrine...in fact it is a blasphemous doctrine because there was only ever One without sin...but naturally the effect it will have on those that have been taught this doctrine will be to strengthen their understanding, and close their hearts and minds to the word of G-d that could release them from the power/control behind such destructive doctrines.
Not actually correct but to speak truth as we are comissioned to do.Well, I'm glad we have you here to correct the Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church in these matters.
Well, I'm glad we have you here to correct the Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church in these matters.
Not actually correct but to speak truth as we are comissioned to do.
The Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church needs correcting
Hate to break the news to you, but Peter did not start the Catholic church. The Catholic church was, and is, separate from the True Churhc.Wrong.
"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
--Matthew 16:18
Wrong.
"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
--Matthew 16:18
Gospel according to St. John, Chapter 21, verses 15-17When they had eaten, Jesus said to Simon Peter, 'Simon son of John, do you love me more than these others do?' He answered, 'Yes, Lord, you know I love you.' Jesus said to him, 'Feed my lambs.' A second time he said to him, 'Simon son of John, do you love me?' He replied, 'Yes, Lord, you know I love you.' Jesus said to him, 'Look after my sheep.' Then he said to him a third time, 'Simon son of John, do you love me?' Peter was hurt that he asked him a third time, 'Do you love me?' and said, 'Lord, you know everything; you know I love you.' Jesus said to him, 'Feed my sheep.
Hate to break the news to you, but Peter did not start the Catholic church. The Catholic church was, and is, separate from the True Churhc.
You are wrong. God did not start the Catholic church. He started His Church... which has nothing whatsoever to do with that which is called the Catholic church today.Yeah... I know that God started the Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. But I'm glad you agree with me that the Church is free from error by God's grace.
You are wrong. God did not start the Catholic church. He started His Church... which has nothing whatsoever to do with that which is called the Catholic church today.
I didn't expect you would understand.
You are wrong. God did not start the Catholic church. He started His Church... which has nothing whatsoever to do with that which is called the Catholic church today.
But his church is The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
The Church is not a building or a particular church or denomination. According to Scripture, the Universal Church is the body of Christall those who have placed their faith in Jesus Christ for salvation (John 3:16; 1 Corinthians 12:13). It is made up of all believers in Christ from the day of Pentecost (Acts chapter 2) until His return. In Scripture, the Church (all those who are truly saved) is called one body in Christ in Romans 12:5, 1 Corinthians 1:17, 1 Corinthians 12:27, Ephesians 4:12; 6:23, Colossians 1:24, and Hebrews 13:3.
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