Terrorists

aww how sad

Originally posted by Muslimah
aww how sad

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lol
that smiley is sooo cute

Originally posted by Susan
How could you ever laugh in a thread like this?
These terrorists MURDERED not only Christians (which is a horrible enough sin and disgrace) but Muslims also.

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ya , but this smiley is cute innit

I think that the smiley is adorable. And murdering christians is not worse than murdering any body else. It's all equally as bad

Originally posted by Susan
How could you ever laugh in a thread like this?
These terrorists MURDERED not only Christians (which is a horrible enough sin and disgrace) but Muslims also.

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Christian Bigotry at it's best.  You act like the killing of Muslims is not as bad as the killing of Christians.

I don't watch the world news anymore. It's depressing. I don't even care what goes on anymore. Yes I'm saddened by it all, but I don't care to watch anymore.

Originally posted by Unbeliever


Christian Bigotry at it's best.

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Atheist ______ at it's best.

Yep, the reader fills it in any way they want.

GySgt James

Gy, you're going to have to explain your last post me, what would one fill into the blank? The post I was refering to definatly had an air of Christian superiority over Muslims.

*mod hat on*

Unbeliever that post was unapproprate as was yours gunny. Both need to read the rules again. this is the last place I thought I would have to worry about this.

*mod hat off*

This ones for you Gunny!!!!

Hopefully, they will realize before its to late.

ITS THE ARABS STUPID!!!!


I WILL NOT FORGET................
>
> I sat in a movie theater watching "Schindler's List", and asked myself,
"Why didn't the Jews fight back?"
>
> Now I know why.
>
> I sat in a movie theater, watching "Pearl Harbor" and asked myself, "Why
weren't we prepared?"
>
> Now I know why.
>
> Civilized people cannot fathom, much less predict, the actions of evil
people.
>
> On September 11, dozens of capable airplane passengers allowed themselves
to be overpowered by a handful
> of poorly armed terrorists because they did not comprehend the depth of
hatred that motivated their
> captors.
>
> On September 11, thousands of innocent people were murdered because too
many Americans naively reject the
> reality that some nations are dedicated to the dominance of others. Many
political pundits, pacifists and
> media personnel want us to forget the carnage.
>
> They say we must focus on the bravery of the rescuers and ignore the
cowardice of the killers. They
> implore us to understand the motivation of the perpetrators. Major
television stations have announced
> they will assist the healing process by not replaying devastating footage
of the planes crashing into the
> Twin Towers.
>
> I will not be manipulated.
>
> I will not pretend to understand.
>
> I will not forget.
>
> I will not forget the liberal media who abused freedom of the press to
kick our country when it was
> vulnerable and hurting.
>
> I will not forget that CBS anchor Dan Rather preceded President Bush's
address to the nation with the
> snide remark, "No matter how you feel about him, he is still our
president."
>
> I will not forget that ABC TV anchor Peter Jennings questioned President
Bush's courage and motives for
> not returning immediately to Washington, DC and commented, "We're all
pretty skeptical and cynical about
> Washington."
>
> And I will not forget that ABC's Mark Halperin warned if reporters
weren't informed of every little
> detail of this war, they aren't "likely -- nor should they be expected --
to show deference."
>
> I will not isolate myself from my fellow Americans by pretending an
attack on the USS Cole in Yemen was
> not an attack on the United States of America.
>
> I will not forget the Clinton administration equipped Islamic terrorists
and their supporters with the
> world's most sophisticated telecommunications equipment and encryption
technology, thereby compromising
> America's ability to trace terrorist radio, cell phone, land lines, faxes
and modem communications.
>
> I will not be appeased with pointless, quick retaliatory strikes like
those perfected by the previous
> administration.
>
> I will not be comforted by "feel-good, do nothing" regulations like the
silly "Have your bags been under
> your control?" question at the airport.
>
> I will not be influenced by so called,"antiwar demonstrators" who exploit
the right of statement to chant
> anti-American obscenities.
>
> I will not forget the moral victory handed the North Vietnamese by
American war protesters who reviled
> and spat upon the returning soldiers, airmen, sailors and Marines.
>
> I will not be softened by the wishful thinking of pacifists who chose
reassurance over reality, security
> over freedom.
>
> I will embrace the wise words of Prime Minister Tony Blair who told the
Labor Party conference, "They
> have no moral inhibition on the slaughter of the innocent. If they could
have murdered not 7,000 but
> 70,000, does anyone doubt they would have done so and rejoiced in it?
There is no compromise possible
> with such people, no meeting of minds, no point of understanding with
such terror. Just a choice: defeat
> it or be defeated by it. And defeat it we must!"
>
> I will force myself to:
>
> -hear the weeping
> -feel the helplessness
> -imagine the terror
> -sense the panic
> -smell the burning flesh
> -experience the loss
> -remember the hatred.
>
> I sat in a movie theater, watching "Private Ryan" and asked myself,
"Where did they find the courage?"
>
> Now I know.
>
> We have no choice. Living without liberty is not living. Security is no
substitute for freedom.

> -- Ed Evans, MGySgt., USMC (Ret.)

> "Not as lean, Not as mean, But still a Marine!"


Peace, but not yet.

Ah yoou din´t want to understand the reasons for the terrorists. Then you probably don´t want an end to them.
As is demonstrated nowadays, that if you don´t want to understand the motivations of the terrorists, then you cannot win.
Israel government does indeed understand why terrorist acts are coming, but chooses to ignore the reasons and tries to eliminate the terrorists by use of force. This leads to extreme violation of the most basic human rights (confessions made under torture are legal, family members automatically guilty withotu even a farce process). Do you really want this happen to the USA?
On the other hand, the ETA in Spain is not supported by the local Basks, therefore the police has it a lot easier to get terrorists into prison withotu violation of human rights. Even the local Basks, for whom the ETA claims to fight for protest after the terrorist attacks. That´s because Spain has recognized the Basks as a seperate entity with a lot of freedoms.

First step to stop terrorism is to understand, WHY it happens. Then analyze the reasons. I bet, that muslim terrorists from Arab states would be far less popular, if Palestinians would get treated like the Basks. Everyone wants to live and have a chance at a good life. Palestinians have that not. So let´s give them the chance. That would not make muslim terror go away overnight, but the new generation would then be more inclined to keep their possessions and improve them. Now they don´t have anything to lose except their life.

The Arabs have a perpetual hatred of the Jews, and Israel as a nation. What is so hard about understanding that. It has nothing to do how the Israeli government response to terrorism, in the Arab mind just the existence of Israel is enough to motivate their hatred. One needs to only study history here, the Arabs have always hated the Jews and it doesn't matter what the Israelis do, their very existence is an offensive repulsion to the Arab. The Arabs will not stop until they have annihilated the Jews from existence. If the Arab nations as a whole are allowed to develop an inventory of nuclear weapons, they will use these weapons on Israel and anyone who supports them. Not because the Israelis have treated them bad, but because they simply exist. BTW the Jews and the Arabs have never treated each other with any good, but the Jews have never sworn the genocide of the Arabs, as the Arabs have of them. The reason the Arabs hate us, is because we are the deterrent, that says we will not allow the Jews to be annihilated. This is the only reason we are hated also. The pacifist in the world would rather give the Jews up than face the terrorist actions of the Arabs.  The war between the Arabs and the Jews is coming and I think the end result will be, bad move Arabs, we will be forced to nearly annihilate them. Peace, but not yet.

It is not for us to understand evil, but to eliminate it.

Marantha I guess, that you are unaware of the fact, that Egypt and Jordania have formal peace treaties with Israel, riight?
I just love these generalisations, that makes it so much more easier to hate all back, right?

Of course, the hatred against Israel nowadays is not funded on the fact, that Israel military units destroy official schools, thus driving those kids to the extremist Koran schools?
I guess, the hatred of the Palestinians against Israel has nothing to do with the fact, that TORTURE is a valid method of interrrogation.
I guess, the fact, that Israel government destroys houses of Palestinian families and moves in radical racist and extremist Israel settlers in Plaestinian settled terretories as a constant needle to the eye.
Of course, the hatred against the USA has nothing to do with the fact, that in spite of severe violations against basic human rights, the (oh so moral defenders of freedom) USA gives still support to Israel without even questioning their acts.
Oh add to the fact, that Israel chooses to ignore about 50 or so UN resolutions against them, with no repercussions. Why no sanctions against Israel? Because the oh so moral defenders of freedom have blocked anything the UN safety arm would have liked to do.

Lacmeh

You must remember, the people that signed those treaties are dead, killed by their own people. They will have no value in the next war. If the Arabs are allowed to get or develop a nuclear arsenal they will use them. The fighting that is happening has nothing do with how Israel is treating the Palestinians. If Israel would give the Arabs every concession they wanted at the peace table, (and what you have fail to see, or reject is), that the Arabs would still attack and use genocide to annihilate the Jews as a race. This is what is embedded in the Arab mind set at an early age. The Arabs as a whole have rejected, from their theological and philosophical ideology, the acceptance of the existence of the Jews as a race. The agenda and goals of the Arab usage of the Palestinians, is to get Israel to give up the buffer zones they created after the 1967 and 1973 wars. The Arabs are simply trying to force world opinion against Israel, to force them to give this strategic land up without a fight. This move would be like putting a rope around your neck, and then trying to balance yourself on the end of a broomstick in the middle of a hurricane. Suicide. So trying to correlate Israel’s retaliation on the Palestinians for terror attacks, as the reason for the terror attacks, just doesn’t hold much water, when the Arab thought for each day is, death to the Jews.

As we can read and see from news coverage the Russians are supporting the Iraqis, by the billion-dollar oil deal they have signed with each other. The Russians are in the process of building Iran a nuclear reactor. The technology is 6o years old. The Arabs will soon be able to develop nuclear weapons and build an offensive capability with an inventory of 20-30 deliverable warheads. If we allow this to happen, millions will die. Peace, but not yet.

The question is, why are the Jews in Palestine? We understand why they hate Israel, now we can stop it. Get the Israelis out of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, and make Jerusalem a joint capital. Of course, another problem is media (especially in the US). Every time Israel attacks the Palestinians and murders their babies, it's justified because Israel is "defending" itself. However, when the Palestinians retaliate, it's terrorism. Hammurabi had it wrong.

An eye for an eye only leaves the world blind.

 

Maranatha, in your post above, you seem to think that every Arab, anywhere, is born with an intrinsic hate of Judeo-Christianity, and that all babies born in the past few years will grow up with nukes strapped to their chests.   Well, will every Israeli child born in the past few years grow up inside tanks and with the United States behind them?   Americans have got to stop listening to the religious right and see that the Israelis are just as much at fault as the "terrorists".

Marantha, the King of Jordania, who signed the peace treaty died of old age.
The President of Egypt, who signed the peace treaty is still alive.
You are hopefully aware of the fact, that Persians (Iranians) are not Arabs?
And you haven´t adressed the fact, that ISrael ignores UN resolutions and USA backs them uü, so they won´t get punished for it. Those resolutions, would they have been enforced, would have prevented a lot what is happening now.
Marantha, I guess for the worldwide defender of freedom and human rights it is ok to support a country, who considers confessions under torture legal.
The hate of most of the Palestinians against ISrael comes from those, who attend Kopran schools run by extremists. Of course they would not attend those schools in the first place, if Israel wouldn´t have destroyed Infrasstructure deliberately. The hatred will not go away overnight. It will take generations. The support for terrorists will not waver until people are taught to think for themselves. Israel does a great job to prevent that. And then they wonder why they are hated. It is really laughable.
As I said before, the more peopel have to lose, the lesser the chance they go and blow up something. Israel does a wonderful job of ensuring that lots and lots of people have nothing to lose. Oh the surprise, that those peopel now want revenge.

we've to allow rooms for mercy and understanding. Generalization is also part of judgement, and we wouldn't be the ones to judge would we?