• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

Tempted in every way that we are...?

cuja1

Newbie
Sep 28, 2012
580
164
48
Springfield, IL
✟30,161.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married

I posted a thread along these lines before reading this. I personally don't think you can keep sinful thoughts out of your head, you can only choose to approve of or reject a sinful thought. I spent years trying to keep bad thoughts out of my head until I came to the conclusion that it was the devil putting them there. I think it'd be like trying not to hear a person when they talk to you. You can't keep the devil from talking to you, you can only tell him where to go with his ideas.
 
Upvote 0

Kutte

Regular Member
Dec 30, 2007
1,197
66
USA
✟39,166.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Widowed
Politics
US-Green

Hi cuja,

The devil putting bad thoughts in your head? No excuses please. If we begin to blame the devil for everything bad we are at the same time whitewashing ourselves of any bad deeds committed on purpose.

Kutte
 
Upvote 0

cuja1

Newbie
Sep 28, 2012
580
164
48
Springfield, IL
✟30,161.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Hi cuja,

The devil putting bad thoughts in your head? No excuses please. If we begin to blame the devil for everything bad we are at the same time whitewashing ourselves of any bad deeds committed on purpose.

Kutte

Excuse me Kutte but it ain't like I'm saying the devil made me kill someone, we're talking about thoughts, I'm hardly saying the devil is responsible for everything. Maybe you're wrong. Please tell me how the devil tempts us, or do you not believe that he does.
 
Upvote 0

Xalith

Newbie
Apr 6, 2015
1,518
630
✟27,443.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Hi cuja,

The devil putting bad thoughts in your head? No excuses please. If we begin to blame the devil for everything bad we are at the same time whitewashing ourselves of any bad deeds committed on purpose.

Kutte

While "the devil made me do it" is not a valid excuse for willful sinning, there are demonic forces at work in the world, and this includes (at least I believe it does) horrible, nasty thoughts that cross your mind out of nowhere.

It can (and does, at least to me) happen anytime. I can be doing something so mundane, like driving down the road and then suddenly, in my head, I get the nastiest dirty and entirely immoral thoughts in my head at times. I know that I wasn't sitting there trying to think of the most filthy sinful things I can think of, the thoughts just come out of nowhere like it wasn't even me who came up with them.

I quickly brush them away, and say a quick, silent, short prayer asking the Lord to help me wash my mind clean of these evil thoughts, while apologizing for allowing them to exist as long as they did, and I ask Him to help me keep such thoughts out of my mind and/or asking Him to rebuke the demons causing them if there are any.

But then, on the flipside, I've had good thoughts come out of nowhere, that make me pause and go "I surely didn't think of that just now, where'd that thought come from?" and the answer is always quite simple: The Holy Spirit. And then I of course say a quick thank-you, because when it happens, it is usually when I'm indecisive about something and I just can't make my mind up.

An example, earlier in the week, I was at work and I was about to take a break in half an hour and I just didn't feel like my usual junk food and I hadn't eaten much of anything that day, and I was grumbling to myself, saying things like "I don't feel like potato chips, pudding, etc... could you help me with this, Lord?"

Well, 5-10 min later, I was like "I wonder if that menu to that southern BBQ place is still on the bulletin board"... nope, it wasn't. I asked the manager and she's like "huh, we'll have to get a new one." and then... without even thinking, I said "hey, you still have that Fox's Pizza menu?" and she goes "I think I do..."

Well, 45min later, I was eating delicious pizza (after saying a prayer of thanks, of course). There wound up being enough for me to take the rest of it home to my parents (Mom hadn't eaten anything all day yet, because she didn't feel like making supper). It worked out extremely well in the end, so I'm sure the sudden thought out of nowhere was the work of the Holy Spirit. It was very nice of Him to show me a way that worked out quite well in the end run.
 
Upvote 0

Xalith

Newbie
Apr 6, 2015
1,518
630
✟27,443.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Paul says that when an unbeliever sins it is no longer the person who does it but the sin living within them. Since being born from above by God's grace and being filled with the Holy Spirit I no longer worry about sin.

I'm of two minds about this quoted block. I know Paul says something like this in the Bible, but yet there's a part that worries me.

That is almost like telling people "you can do what you want, if you sin it isn't you doing it, but the fleshly body doing it."

But yet I know that certainly can't be true. I know He is willing to forgive us of any sin we commit, and he will chastise us for sinning, or otherwise deal with it as He sees necessary and we are to be obedient and submit ourselves to whatever type of correction He deems necessary or right.

However... on the flipside, it gives me hope that when I do sin (and I've sinned since becoming a Christian), that I don't necessarily have to apologize 50 times in a day and feel horrible about what I've done. I don't want to just callously sin, but yet if I spend the day feeling horrible and guilty over it, then it is difficult to do other things, like praising Him.
 
Upvote 0