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<blockquote data-quote="Amittai" data-source="post: 74903313" data-attributes="member: 159947"><p>In the Self and Its Brain in the section Materialism Transcends Itself (pages 27-31), we have points like: (slightly potted by me)</p><p></p><p>- first appearance of heavier elements</p><p>- beginning of life on earth (and perhaps elsewhere) (latter might happen in a different time frame IMO) </p><p>- emergence of consciousness, of language, of human brain respectively</p><p></p><p>Pauli, Monod, Wittgenstein, Jennings and von Hayek are cited in passing. Then:</p><p></p><p>" ... replace the classical ideas of possibility or potentiality or capacity or force by their new version: by probability or propensity."</p><p></p><p>Refuting a "postulate of invariance" dating from 1906, he gives the example (also raised by others), of different processes occurring before and after the emergence of chlorophyll. More detailed illustrations were given in an earlier article. (I have come across my reading matter by serendipity.)</p><p></p><p>BTW if I rebadged "intelligent design" as <em>intelligible configuration</em>, would the public object? Surely patterns, even incredibly complex ones, are natural. I have a gut feeling that "if it was going to happen, it would happen here - or in a place like here". The anthropic principle is not that circular, except to denial deniers. Arthur Young (designer at Bell Helicopters) in the Geometry of Meaning points out what we all knew when we were knee high, that things are "out there" as well as "in here (our minds)" at the same time: objectivity + subjectivity = projectivity.</p><p></p><p>I've only just discovered your last two (short lived) threads. I'll try and bring my "bright ideas" (as an amateur) in here unless you would like to direct me back, for some of them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Amittai, post: 74903313, member: 159947"] In the Self and Its Brain in the section Materialism Transcends Itself (pages 27-31), we have points like: (slightly potted by me) - first appearance of heavier elements - beginning of life on earth (and perhaps elsewhere) (latter might happen in a different time frame IMO) - emergence of consciousness, of language, of human brain respectively Pauli, Monod, Wittgenstein, Jennings and von Hayek are cited in passing. Then: " ... replace the classical ideas of possibility or potentiality or capacity or force by their new version: by probability or propensity." Refuting a "postulate of invariance" dating from 1906, he gives the example (also raised by others), of different processes occurring before and after the emergence of chlorophyll. More detailed illustrations were given in an earlier article. (I have come across my reading matter by serendipity.) BTW if I rebadged "intelligent design" as [I]intelligible configuration[/I], would the public object? Surely patterns, even incredibly complex ones, are natural. I have a gut feeling that "if it was going to happen, it would happen here - or in a place like here". The anthropic principle is not that circular, except to denial deniers. Arthur Young (designer at Bell Helicopters) in the Geometry of Meaning points out what we all knew when we were knee high, that things are "out there" as well as "in here (our minds)" at the same time: objectivity + subjectivity = projectivity. I've only just discovered your last two (short lived) threads. I'll try and bring my "bright ideas" (as an amateur) in here unless you would like to direct me back, for some of them. [/QUOTE]
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