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24The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man who sowed good seed in his field:
25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26But when the plant was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? from where then has it tares?
28He said unto them, An enemy has done this. The servants said unto him, Will you then that we go and gather them up?
29But he said, Nay; lest while you gather up the tares, you root up also the wheat with them.
30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather you together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
 
18For I testify unto every man that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
20He who testifies these things says, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

31He that comes from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaks of the earth: he that comes from heaven is above all.
32And what he has seen and heard, that he testifies; and no man receives his testimony.
33He that has received his testimony has set his seal to this that God is true.
34For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God: for God gives not the Spirit by measure unto him.
35The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into his hand.
36He that believes on the Son has everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abides on him.
Then spoke Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
13The Pharisees therefore said unto him, You bear record of yourself; your record is not true.
14Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know from where I came, and where I go; but you cannot tell from where I come, and where I go.
15You judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
16And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
17It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
18I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me bears witness of me.
19Then said they unto him, Where is your Father? Jesus answered, You neither know me, nor my Father: if you had known me, you should have known my Father also.
20These words spoke Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
hen said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and you shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: where I go, you cannot come.
22Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he said, Where I go, you cannot come.
23And he said unto them, You are from beneath; I am from above: you are of this world; I am not of this world.
24I said therefore unto you, that you shall die in your sins: for if you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sins.
25Then said they unto him, Who are you? And Jesus said unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
26I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
27They understood not that he spoke to them of the Father.
28Then said Jesus unto them, When you have lifted up the Son of man, then shall you know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father has taught me, I speak these things.
29And he that sent me is with me: the Father has not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
30As he spoke these words, many believed on him.
 
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Yeah this was a common theme in Christs teachings. He taught that people who don't trust in the son will perish. This parable is much like the parable of the good and bad fish that were seperated.

The WORD was given many times in history to mankind and it was rejected, as is it rejected today. They whom reject the WORD in doing so delay their salvation for a time, all are given more than one chance to be saved some in this life others in afterlife and some at brink of destruction.
 
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Yeah, as I think about it, God gave me many oppurtunities to turn to him... So glad I did. When you said some have a chance to recieve salvation in the afterlife what particularly did you mean true lion?

Mankind do not understand the truth of things, and why Jesus is called the saviour why I know what I know will become clear in future, All were condemned and God foreseen this and manifest himself as his Son a mystery to complex for mankind to comprehend how their is both a Father and a Son. The Father whom shall adopt humanity is Jesus Christ whom is God also that is why it says they whom overcome shall become the Sons and Daughters of God.

All whom die on earth fall to a place called the underworld it is not a good place and is the first type of hell, to even get to paradise is almost impossible and most do not find the way to it and are misled at death easily into underworlds. So the scripture which says only through much tribulation does one enter heaven is coded, it means people will have to suffer to enter harder than that of the earth. Only reason the prophets avoided the binding of underworld was the torment they endured for sake of Christ and giving up their life's, Christians will be expected to do the same whom live to see the tribulation.

But God because of atonement can end that suffering can release the spirits from underworld and that is why they will be so grateful. The lake of fire itself is a different level of hell and is not same as underworld that place is were murders and those of great evil will spend some time before they too are given a chance for it to end.

There is only one true forever Hell called the Outer Darkness that is permanent and only occurs at final judgement if a person after knowing underworld and paradise chooses to reject God and wants nothing to do with Him and would prefer to suffer forever, that is unforgivable sin for atonement does not apply. The decision is always regretted but it is to late, Apollyon takes claim and they are forever trapped in torment beyond all comprehension.

So know now that even those whom fall to underworld of hell of hades and death shall be given chances to be redeemed, it is only the final judgement that is permanent and is after everyone has both experienced hell and knows of paradise, paradise is not heaven either it is a future time in which earth is changed and those whom are worthy to enter it are taught the ways of God, it will go much longer than a thousand years that is symbolic and not many at first will be worthy to enter, during the Millennium there will be resurrections and judgements for all worlds including earth.
 
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Interesting. So you are saying hell and the underworld are 2 seperate places? After the 7yr tribulation, God will look in his book of life and choose who goes to heaven. Now I know this truth, but are you claiming that those who have died and not fallen asleep in Christ have a 2nd chance to recieve salvation? Does this have to do with what Jesus taught regarding 1st then permanent second death? Sorry for all the questions, I just want to understand more about what u are saying.
 
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The underworld is hellish but it is not like the lake of fire and outer darkness. All whom die on earth go to underworld even if they believe in Jesus Christ, but believing in Jesus Christ works in their favour and allows them to be atoned for and rescued after a smaller amount of time than those whom didn't believe. But people are given chance to be redeemed even from underworld and lake of fire and will all eventually be resurrected and brought before God for final judgement.

The main reason people fall is pride, the world has been misled and very few are righteous enough to live to the day of burning and avoid the underworld, this year a third of mankind will die like I prophecy and why I know this will become clear in time. The tribulation is beginning this year and will be a terrifying event and shocking to world in how it starts.

I am working on something to help those whom seek truth whom are humble enough to empty their cups and receive the waters. When it is done I will give the links to the forums as they were tested and all failed and consequences come upon some whom posted and those whom deleted the WORD of God the wrath abides on them it wont be changed for it is scripture that was removed and edited by moderator and mocked by others the accountability is higher since it was a declaration by both the Father and the Son.

Mankind comprehends not the light and if the very light spoke to them they would judge it wrongly and in their ignorance bring themselves woes in doing so, hence they are in darkness and the testimony of this is this universes space; earth is surrounded in darkness and the Sun gives the light.

The second death is truly the Outer Darkness for it is the death of spirit and loss of all connection to God, therefore the spirit is broken down by the torment of the forever Hell by Apollyon and they are feed on forever in torment and misery losing themselves only knowing torment but not whom they are or were. They become overtaken by the darkness and part of it stuck forever bound to evil. The lake of fire is a glimpse to the breaking down of spirit but it is not permanent and that is why it says in scripture 'they will have their portion of lake of fire'.

Know this God himself has endured torment beyond anything anyone else will ever have to experience even they whom go to Outer Darkness, God could not be broken down in spirit and descended to the edge of the pit a place that is beyond even the torment of Outer Darkness which is the very heart of Hell itself and he overcame it this took aeons if a man wrote every second the number 9 from the beginning of world until end i it could not number the amount of years it took to atone for the sins of all worlds that Jesus endured for all this will be shown unto everyone in final judgement and bring many to knees in humility and gratitude in tears and in guilt to some.

The amount of things that had to be done to save the souls could not fill all the books of world from beginning of time until it end, much is not known by the world.

Your questions are welcome, for they whom knock the door shall open too why I know these things will be revealed later.
 
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May God always be shared!

Thou name is truth for God is good, how mankind think something good could create evil is hypocritical to what good stands for. Now the truth is on earth and whom shall recognise it, blessed are they whom do for they shall fair well in times to come.
 
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Regarding "it says those whom died in Christ name will be taken from grave first at the second coming", are you thinking of 1 Thessalonians 4:16b? If so, note that that refers to their physical bodies only. For 1 Thessalonians 3:13 and 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 show that at Jesus' 2nd coming, the souls of all obedient dead believers of all times will be brought down from the 3rd heaven with Jesus (1 Thessalonians 4:14-15), and their souls will descend to the earth and their bodies will resurrect/rise from their graves (1 Thessalonians 4:16).

Then they and all believers who will survive the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 on the earth (those who will still be "alive and remain") will be raptured up high into the air above the places all around the globe where they will be (1 Thessalonians 4:17a), and then they will be gathered together from the sky (the first heaven) all around the globe (Matthew 24:31; 2 Thessalonians 2:1) to the one place in the sky where the returned Jesus will be (1 Thessalonians 4:17b), which will be right above Jerusalem, before he sets his feet on the Mount of Olives (Zechariah 14:4-5, Acts 1:11-12).

It's because of this 2nd-coming rapture into the sky, and then the gathering to where in the sky Jesus will be (and then the marriage of the obedient part of the church there to Jesus: Revelation 19:7-8, Matthew 25:1-12), that the obedient part of the church will already be with Jesus when he subsequently descends from the sky (the first heaven) to the earth (Revelation 19:14, Revelation 17:14, Zechariah 14:5c,4).


Regarding, "who to say the second coming isn't already occurring now", note that it isn't happening now because Jesus will return "in like manner" as he ascended (Acts 1:11b), in that just as at the end of his first coming, he was seen by literal eyes to ascend physically from the Mount of Olives into a literal cloud and on into heaven (Acts 1:9,12, cf. Luke 24:39), so at his 2nd coming, he will be seen in literal clouds by literal eyes (Revelation 1:7, Matthew 24:30) to physically descend from heaven (1 Thessalonians 4:16) and set his feet on the Mount of Olives (Zechariah 14:3-21).

When Jesus returns, immediately after the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Revelation 19:7-21, Matthew 24:29-31), he will descend bodily from heaven on a white horse (Revelation 19:7-21; 1 Thessalonians 4:16, Zechariah 14:3-4, Acts 1:11-12) with all the holy angels (Matthew 25:31; 2 Thessalonians 1:7) for all the world to see (Matthew 24:27,30, Revelation 1:7). Then the church will be bodily resurrected (if dead) or physically changed (if alive) into immortality (1 Corinthians 15:21-23,51-53; 1 Thessalonians 4:16, Revelation 20:4-6) and caught up together/gathered together (raptured) (Matthew 24:31; 2 Thessalonians 2:1) as high as the clouds of the sky to hold a meeting in the air with Jesus (1 Thessalonians 4:17).

At that meeting, he will judge the church (Psalms 50:3-5, cf. Mark 13:27; 2 Corinthians 5:10, Luke 12:45-48) and marry its obedient part (Revelation 19:7-8, Matthew 25:1-12) in the clouds, before it mounts white horses and comes back down from sky (the first heaven) with Jesus (Revelation 19:14) as he defeats the world's armies (Revelation 19:19,21) and the Antichrist and False Prophet (Revelation 19:20), and has Lucifer (Satan) bound in the bottomless pit for 1,000 years (Revelation 20:1-3).

Jesus will then make the marriage supper of Revelation 19:9 for the obedient part of the church in the earthly Jerusalem (Isaiah 25:6-9; 1 Corinthians 15:54), while the birds will feast on the corpses of the world's defeated armies (Revelation 19:17-18). Then Jesus and the obedient part of the church will rule the surviving nations with a rod of iron for the full 1,000 years of the millennium (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29, Psalms 2). After the 1,000 years are over, Lucifer will be released from the bottomless pit and bring about the Gog/Magog rebellion, only to be defeated for the last time (Revelation 20:7-10, Ezekiel chapters 38-39).

At least 7 years after that defeat (Ezekiel 39:9b), the great white throne judgment will occur, in which all those who hadn't been resurrected and judged at Jesus' return will be resurrected and judged (Revelation 20:11-15). Then God will create a new heaven (a new first heaven: a new sky/atmosphere for the earth) and a new earth (a new surface for the earth) (Revelation 21:1; 2 Peter 3:10b,13). Then God the Father will descend from the 3rd heaven in the literal city of New Jerusalem (Revelation 21:2), the Father's house (John 14:2, Revelation 21:3), and he will dwell on the earth with Jesus and the church (Revelation 21:3).

In one area outside the walls of New Jerusalem on the new earth will be the lake of fire (Revelation 22:15, Revelation 21:8) in which all of unsaved humanity will be punished forever in fire and brimstone with Lucifer and his fallen angels (Revelation 20:10,15, Matthew 25:41,46).


Regarding "even some of the prophets were misled and fell to underworld David is one of them", note that all the believers who lived during Old Testament times are now part of the church in heaven (Hebrews 11:13-16, Hebrews 12:22-24), for now there are no believers outside of the church (Ephesians 4:4-6). And 1 Peter 4:6, 1 Peter 3:18c-19, and Ephesians 4:9 show that there was a post-resurrection descent of Jesus into Hades to preach the fulfillment of the gospel (of 1 Corinthians 15:1-4) to the souls of the dead in Hades, sometime after which preaching, Jesus ascended into heaven with all the souls of those in Hades who had died in faith (Ephesians 4:8-9, Hebrews 11:13-16, Hebrews 12:22-24).

There are two literal hells, one temporary and one eternal. The temporary hell, called Hades in Greek (Luke 16:23) and Sheol in Hebrew (Psalms 86:13), is where the souls of unsaved people go when they die, and where they're tormented by flame (Luke 16:23-24). Before Jesus' first coming, Hades was also where the souls of saved people went when they died, but the part of Hades for the saved was a place of comfort (Luke 16:25). Since Jesus' resurrection, the souls of obedient believers go directly into heaven to be with Jesus when they die (Philippians 1:21,23; 2 Corinthians 5:8, Revelation 6:9-11).

At Jesus' 2nd coming, he will bring with him from heaven the souls of all obedient believers who have ever died (1 Thessalonians 4:14), and their bodies will be resurrected into immortality at that time (1 Thessalonians 4:16; 1 Corinthians 15:21-23,52-53). They will then reign on the earth with Jesus for 1,000 years (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29). After the 1,000 years and subsequent events are over (Revelation 20:7-10), all unsaved people of all times will be resurrected out of Hades and judged (Revelation 20:12-13), and then cast into the eternal hell, called the lake of fire (Revelation 20:15, Revelation 21:8), where they will be tormented along with Satan and his fallen angels in fire and brimstone forever (Matthew 25:41,46, Revelation 20:10,15, Revelation 14:10-11). This eternal hell is also called Gehenna in Greek (Luke 12:5, Mark 9:45-46) and Tophet in Hebrew (Isaiah 30:33).

Tophet was also the name of a place in ancient times called the valley of Hinnom (2 Kings 23:10), just outside the southern wall of Jerusalem (Joshua 15:8). "Gehenna" literally means "the valley (ge) of Hinnom". Just as the ancient Tophet/Gehenna was outside the wall of ancient Jerusalem, so the eternal Gehenna, the lake of fire, will be just outside the wall of New Jerusalem (Revelation 22:15, Revelation 21:8) on the new earth (Revelation 21:1-8). Saved people will go forth from New Jerusalem to witness the eternal torment of the unsaved in the lake of fire (Isaiah 66:24, Mark 9:46, Matthew 25:41,46, Revelation 20:10,15, Revelation 14:10-11).
 
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You do realise if what you claim is not truth ye are counted as a false prophet, for thou seeks to speak for God yet are given no authority. It is my advice that ye should repent and show humility for they whom say they see shall die in their sins. Certain scriptures were never meant for general public to understand it meaning and only the chosen will see the hidden meaning in the coding of those scriptures. Much of what you just wrong is with error and is not how it does occur, to speak as if it is the truth brings you full accountability to every soul that is misled by it do you accept the responsiblity.
 
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