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I specifically suggested that you read it in context. Verbatim, I said,
"Numbers 31:40. Read it in context."
Sounds good. We're done. No progress will be made, you've made that clear.
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Yeah I don't get why he/she quoted just that verse only, instead of the entire passage or complete part of scripture that would actually address what he/she is saying, when that single verse has nothing to do with what he/she seems to be saying... But I checked it in it's context and I don't see where he/she is coming from...?
Don't worry I am already done here... Your wrong on most of these things BTW, but I'm not gonna address every single issue you have with God and the Bible, sorry... Find another huckleberry... (If I'm bored and not busy and have nothing better to do later on, I might address some of thoughts, but no guarantees, K) (I've got things to do right now, but may get back to you later, maybe, K)...
God Bless!
Do you think this verse is talking about sacrificing people to God? It isn't.
Num 31:40 And the persons were sixteen thousand; of whom Jehovah's tribute was thirty and two persons.
not entirely true
if we can't confine God in heaven into our science laboratory...
then we can't control all variables, and can't apply scientific method
yes?
the claim is we are in God's cosmic laboratory, and God is in ultimate control of all variables
which occasionally God manipulates in a so called miracle
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one prediction is that Revelation 20:9 will eventually occur
of course, that would be an extremely high standard of evidence to require...
Revelation 20:9Could you explain, then, why the idea of God merits serious consideration?
Well that should tell you right there that they weren't sacrificed. Only clean animals were Ever sacrificed. You do realize that sacrificial animals were eaten right?Jehovah's tribute of the donkeys was 61. What happened to the donkeys?
A heave offering, I quoted in my post what a heave offering was/is and posted a link to a complete description.So the tribute was a heave-offering.
Well that should tell you right there that they weren't sacrificed. Only clean animals were Ever sacrificed.
You do realize that sacrificial animals were eaten right?
A heave offering, I quoted in my post what a heave offering was/is and posted a link to a complete description.
Your assuming that, but it may not be correct, and I don't think it is, but "whatever"...
Look... Is there "any small part of you" at all that "wants to believe" but maybe finds themselves unable to because of certain things or this or that (Like challenging parts of scripture maybe)... Anyway, unless there is some small part of you that actually "want's to believe" then, yeah, I think were done here...
So, Is there or isn't there...?
God Bless!
when you do see it, lighting up earth's skies, it will seem quite serious indeedI don't see how that is a serious answer.
Absurd in the extreme. But, hey the Bible says so...........
Usually men "taking a woman or any women for themselves", implies that they were to marry them... Cause "take them for themselves" usually means as wives or part of their concubines, and doesn't mean "rape" (although I am not saying that didn't happen sometimes after they brought them home)...
God makes it pretty clear that if you defile a woman like that, and take her virginity, you are to marry her and take care of her and see that she is provided for, protect her from other much worse men, and protect her in general, ect...
Cause virginity was very, very important for a woman back then, and when it was gone, and you got divorced or separated, or the man was not and Israelite and abandoned her (or took her virginity without marrying her or being with her) then it was very hard for her to get married or be taken care of by a man back then... And God knew that... A woman's virginity was her future security, and if she lost it and wasn't or didn't get married, made it very hard and next to impossible to have "any" future security almost... Those virgins also became a part of Israel, and got to enjoy everything Israel enjoyed as a nation also, and have a sharing with Israel...
Anyway, I'm not asking you to accept my point of view/position, just to be as "objective as possible" as you so well put it... And please don't assume things that are just not there in scripture... IOW's lets not go beyond what we can't or don't or cannot know for sure, K...? (and I will try or do my best to be or be doing the same as well, K?)...
Do you have or know any other passages of scripture that you might be having trouble with maybe...? We can discuss those if you like...?
Oh, and... Sorry about yesterday, I was in a mood yesterday, I did not mean to attack you or your position or to come across so hard... I apologize...
God Bless!
you don't know that
is that a rhetorical question? If you are actually serious, then you are showing a near total ignorance of the Bible
Saint Paul was one of the most educated people on planet earth 2000 years ago
(meanwhile, our ancestors at the same time were living on dirt floors, yes?)
if we can't trust highly educated people yesterday, why should we trust educated people today?
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the line of reasoning I'm hearing you tell me...
is that God in heaven is not visible and so can't exist...
and that you have not seen a miracle, and so nobody else has either because they can't exist...
but you can't see dark matter or dark energy, yet you believe in them
you say we can OBSERVE THEIR INFLUENCES...
and so INFER THEIR EXISTENCE like Le Verrier inferred Neptune
but Moses and the Israelites OBSERVED supernatural phenomena...
and so INFERRED the existence of a supernatural actor
(Exodus 14:31)
why are you so complacently reassured that our "pale blue dot" is so isolated from our heavenly environment and context?
if you can see stars and galaxies, then they can see you, so to speak
even Bart Ehrman acknowledges that the bible is better attested than any other bookShow me evidence of miracles.
Eyewitnesses? You mean the people who are PURPORTED to have written biblical books? I grew up on the Bible but I wasn't told the truth about it.
I have not said anything about the existence or non-existence of God.
Eventually, things in the physical realm are measurable. Spritual entities are not. This is pretty basic.
Atomic theory was first proposed by a Greek living 2500 years ago. For all that time, it was only a hypothesis until we developed the tools to test it.
Highly educated people even 100 years ago believed that our galaxy was the entire extent of the universe. Paul doesn't get a pass for being highly educated in his era.
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