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If everything was near clean and pristine, it might be easier for other people to accept his idea.
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Even before I clicked the link, I knew it was going to be about Adam.
Adam and Eve have no bearing on this whole thing. We're talking about the world.
Backgammon's a great game, haven't played much in a while but it was big back in college and I was pretty good at it.
And despite over six thousand years of death, decay, and destruction -- even on a global scale -- you expect everything to be "near clean and pristine" today?
Not to the same level that we see with regards to the fossil record and geological record too.
Hmmm ... okay.
You're entitled to your assumptions.
Scars are needed for growth. It's part of life. No one, even the the earth is free of scars.Negative.
A belly button is a scar; and God didn't create the universe with scars.
Scars are needed for growth.
You think the Earth was created 6025 years ago and appears to be much older. This is the appearance of age view that has been discredited long ago. For if this could be true, the same argument could be used to say the Earth was created last Thursday .I'll take questions on Embedded Age Creation here.
I define Embedded Age Creation as: maturity without history.
The crucial thing is tat we see a plethora of events that are dated prior 4004 BC. We see the remnants of volcanic eruptions, like the Decan Traps, we see scratching trails and wandering stones left behind by glaciers. We see dinosaur bones with biting marks. We have a fossilized dinosaur mother protecting her eggs.And despite over six thousand years of death, decay, and destruction -- even on a global scale -- you expect everything to be "near clean and pristine" today?
Not to the same level that we see with regards to the fossil record and geological record too.
These aren't assumptions. We - science lovers, knowledge embracers, education promoters - don't assume all the geology, paleontology astronomy, physics and so on. We study, investigate, test and discover.Hmmm ... okay.
You're entitled to your assumptions.
In pre-fall beliefs, we are unable to really know what a clean and pristine earth might look like. So imagination takes over. Science on the other hand opens a window to earth changes over very long time frame that is much closer to reality.And despite over six thousand years of death, decay, and destruction -- even on a global scale -- you expect everything to be "near clean and pristine" today?
Is there an empirical way to distinguish embedded age from real age?
Then how do we distinguish both?Good question.
I'll say NO to that, since everything around us has been in a state of entropy for over six thousand years, as well as subjected to constant abuse on a grand scale.
You keep telling that. But you can't provide any evidence. Any reason to believe that what you say is true.And nothing grew, did it?
Adam didn't grow to be 20 or 30.
Nor did the flowers, the trees, nor the bumble bees.
They came into existence fully mature, but without a history,
Then how do we distinguish both?
To put it in infantile terms, so you can understand:
Imagine a group of archaeologists excavating some site.
You keep telling that. But you can't provide any evidence.
Any reason to believe that what you say is true.
So, to put it bluntly: why should we consider this as true?
If you try to convince an atheist of the validity of Christianity this way, you creating more hurdles than removing some. You expect that non believers accept “miracles” as an explanation whenAin't that a drag?
Must not be any?
Why isn't there any?
Because it was a miracle.
Fail. Try again.Faith?
Somehow “understand” and “mysterious ways” are mutually exclusive. And again, you expect an atheist - who doesn’t believe in the existence of any deity – to reject everything we know about archaeology, geology, population genetics, astronomy, glaciology, climatology and so on for ignorance about the ways in which a non existent entity works. Because “god works in mysterious ways”, means that 1) I accept the existence of said deity and 2) giving up, any hope to get any knowledge on all these fields of sciences listed previously.So you can understand better how God works in mysterious ways?
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