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I see you do not have a faith icon next to your name. I tell you, in a friendly spirit, that this area of Christianforums is for Christians only. Those that run the website have defined "Christian" that you have to adhere to the Nicene Creed. Part of the Nicene Creed states "And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, Very God of Very God ... being of one substance with the Father "
these are all generations until the coming of Jesus counted in reverse order from Joseph till the first man Adam
How can Christians get so mislead in the worlds philosophies, about the subject of origins of life, when you have to start making assumptions against the Biblical text about whats metaphors and what can be taken literally, now I see why it is so important to be trained by God's Holy Spirit, to stay grounded in His Word, because the Bible says
t:24:24: For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
so as can be seen already Christians are way out there in left field, simply because they bought into the worlds philosophy at some point, and they can't see the truth anymore, when you got to staert questioning the Bible, no wonder God needs to rescue us from the worlds deceptions.
Thank God for His Holy Spirit to guide us into ALL TRUTH.
And God will rescue you as well,, thank God this subject is not a detriment to our salvation, it's just ashamed that His children have to be so decieved, still saved, but just missing out on truth in this very area.
This very subject of origins, is a wonderful test that God is given His children to see who will stay grounded to God's word, and who wavers away from the word of God.
Thank God we can stand firm on His word and promises, and not get swept into the worlds phuilosophies.
Only God can bring His children back to truth.
Lol, that's it? That's the proof?? Mosquitos becoming more mosquitos, worms becoming more worms, flies becoming more flies?? This is still microevolution. Moving the goalposts? No, that's just a weak excuse in a desperate attempt to hide the fact that you're not even coming close to hitting the goalposts in the first place.
The definitions of micro and macro evolution are self-evident.
Not when it comes to venturing upon the science of the Bible. Bronze Age people didn't know what we know now, and so their interpretation was off.
When you look at Genesis at a literal standpoint, it does not match what science has granted.
No, it is macroevolution. 'Species' is a different organism, it just doesn't resemble something too different at the first macro evolutionary jump.
I have given the mechanism, deduced the virtual certainty of evolution from it,
I have pretty much stated this like five times now and you keep doing it. How about just be a man and accept the fact that you haven't done much of anything on here except be vastly unreasonable and purposefully ignorant. Don't go trying to backlash me because of your shortcomings.
Oh, I don't doubt you can find a "scientific" definition that supports its own flaws. I think that's called circular reasoning.
I have made no claims here whatsoever about my grandparents, so, this is irrelevant. Nor have I ever requested "pics" of macroevolution, so, good straw man you got yourself there. But I'd love to hear your logic and reasoning to support your claim that I didn't have grandparents.
Adama is the Hebrew word for earth. Accordingly, that is where the name Adam came from because that is where man came from (albeit through evolution), which later becomes noted as man.
Before the lineage, there was mankind but the men were not needed to be known, only their fall.
The story of Eden is almost entirely metaphorical. The Serpent, for example, is simply a symbol for the fallen angel. He fell from grace, and crawled on his belly (cast down to the Earth). Hence the metaphor.
READ: making stuff up. Go ahead, just don't pretend that's science.
Insulting consists of being purposefully ignorant about something, waving your hand in someone's face, and then going around saying they are wrong because you don't like it.You have done nothing but be insulting; you're hardly in any position to be saying anything along these lines.
yes, the true God is not whatever causer of harm, but there is another side of the divine/divinity which is the "darkness" and which is the source of evil therein, that is shy we said "the basal God", because there is true God that never is evil, but there is also a negative side of God which is the "darkness", so that then(as it is in 2 Thessalonians 2:11) the world "god" is in the meaning of the divine/divinity as a whole, of course this does not mean that there is a higher God than the true Heavenly Father, but just that there are two different sides of the infinitely existing divine nature
That correction aside, what you are trying to say is correct: our classification scheme is simply groups of species. So, once you have speciation, you have all of evolution. Getting to a new genus, then a new family, then a new order, a new phylum, even a new kingdom is simply lots of speciation events spread out thru time. No mystery, but just the same processes that produce a new species from an existing one.
Bolded part is false. A fern is simply not a frog. You may be correct and that is certainly modern thought on the topic, but we really do not know that Ev actually "spread out" to such an extent. The evidence we have makes the idea plausible.
we now again say that in some cases the biblical word "god" indicates both sides of the divine nature i.e. not just the true God but also the "darkness", or said in other words, in such cases the word "god" does not indicate just the true God, but the divine nature as a whole, here is another such place in the Scripture:
Romans 1:25-26 "God gave them(viz. the unrighteous believers) up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use(ie the use of creature/creation which the true God has projected) into that which is against nature(e.g. as the first woman "eve" did): And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman(*), burned in their lust(ie defiled in their spiritual/religious deviation/deception) one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly(viz. which is unseemly for (the) believers), and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error(ie of their spiritual/religious iniquity) which was meet(ie which they did together)." (* some unrighteous male believers leave the woman to follow/do (a) spiritual/religious iniquity(e.g. as the first woman "eve" did), while other of them allow the normal use or the rights of women to be violated - e.g. as the pharisees did with the women)
however you are right about the fact that the true God is never evil
Blessings
Making stuff up consists of saying science is false simply because you want your shallow interpretation of Scripture to be true.
Insulting consists of
No matter what I say, you will say 'pics or didn't happen'
That is what keeps you from believing evolution, so go ahead and be a creatoinist- live in your fantasy of literalism.
Dumbing down something out of sheer purposeful ignorance is not an argument.
Assumption is never a good idea. (Where did I state I was arguing, and why would you assume I was or am?) You are representing everything that is wrong with academia, and doing so quite well.
FALSE! Job debunks this yin-yang idea. It is also one of many things that is both upheld and clarified in the NT:
(1 John 1:5) "This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all."
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