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Survey of American Jews finds drop in population

Associated Press (USA), Sep. 11, 2003,

International Herald Tribune

NEW YORK -- An influential study of U.S. Jews, released Wednesday after a delay that threatened its credibility, provides evidence of a smaller but in some ways more engaged Jewish community in America.

The National Jewish Population Survey concluded that the number of Jews has decreased 5 percent to 5.2 million in the past decade, as a low birth rate combined with slightly rising levels of intermarriage.

However, the study also found increased enrollment in Jewish day schools and some observance of holiday rituals among even the least-engaged Jews.

The survey, conducted every 10 years, shapes how millions of dollars are spent to keep Judaism alive in the United States. But the latest version is about two years late and its conclusions and odology are already being contested.

"There was a lot of tension around every aspect of this study," said Egon Mayer, a Brooklyn College sociologist and technical adviser to the study who disagreed with its approach.

Field workers had trouble convincing enough people to participate in the lengthy interview. About 4,500 eventually responded, although not all were asked every question.

Preliminary findings were released last October, then abruptly retracted after the agency overseeing the project, United Jewish Communities, discovered that an outside firm which conducted field work had lost some data used to determine who would be interviewed.

The agency asked independent experts to examine the impact of the missing data, along with the survey's overall odology and response rates. Those experts determined the report was sound, said Bernard Shapiro, the former head of McGill University, who led the investigation.

"I am convinced that the months taken to review the study have confirmed it contains a tremendous amount of important and reliable information," Shapiro wrote in the report's preamble.

The margin of error varies according to groups of questions, but never reaches higher than plus or minus 3 percentage points, researchers said.

The $6 million study had been promoted as the most extensive portrait ever of American Jews. It is at the center of a debate over whether leaders should reach out to Jews on the fringes of religious life or strengthen support for those already active.

Among the most contentious issues was defining who is Jewish. Researchers included people who either said they were Jewish, or were born to a Jewish parent or raised Jewish and did not convert to another monotheistic religion such as Christianity.

The margin of error on the 5.2 million total population figure was plus or minus 2 percentage points. Mayer is among those who believe the definition used was too narrow, and probably caused an undercount.

The most anticipated finding was the rate of intermarriage.

Researchers determined that the figure was 43 percent from 1991-1995 and 47 percent from 1996-2001.

However, those statistics are not directly comparable to the 52 percent rate reported in 1990, which was based on a broader definition of who is Jewish, including Jews who were raised with another faith.

Critics said that approach exaggerated the intermarriage trend. Researchers for this latest study recalculated the earlier statistic using their narrower definition and said the intermarriage rate in 1990 was 43 percent.

Steven Cohen, a Hebrew University sociologist and consultant to the survey who said the 52 percent figure was inaccurate, said either statistic for 1990 would have "led to the same policy" -- spending on programs that build Jewish identity.

The Orthodox Union, which claims 1,000 North American Orthodox congregations, said the report pointed to a continuing "assimilation crisis" -- meaning that Jews are leaving their faith.

Zale Newman, a national youth director for the union, said programs were needed to make young people feel "they are a critical part of the Jewish people."

"We must get to them before we lose them," he said.

The study found that Jewish women, on average, have no more than two children, fewer than women in the general population and too low to replace losses in the Jewish community. And the median age for Jews is 42, five years older than a decade ago.

Only one-third of children of interfaith couples are being raised Jewish, according to the report.
 

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Remember you can be Jewish and Christian at the same time, there is no conflict, there was no conflict with the early church fathers, such as peter and james, they were still jewish and Christian, I don't see why that should change at all.
 
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TanToday said:
Why? My sincere guess is that the mixed marriages are with Christians. Many of those children are not lost to God, just being raised with Jesus

Ten percent of the Roman Empire at the time of Christ, around 6 million people, were Jewish.

The majority of Jews did become Christians.
 
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Godzman said:
it would make satan happy, and the muslims happy to. I don't see why Jews can't still be Jews when they accept Christ, they are still the chosen ones of God.
yep im sure muslims around the world have nothing better to do than cheer that there are less jews
you have them figured out down to a t man
how do you do it?
pyschic powers?

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Jewish population may be decreasing but Jewish influence in our politics is increasing.

Donors to the Democratic Party in 2002:

Haim Saban: $12. 3 million
Fred Eychaner, :$7.4 million
Steven Bing: $7.1 million
Steve Kirsch: $3.3 million
Bernard Schwartz:$2.3 million
Melvin Simon:$2 million
Daniel Abraham: $1.4 million
Charles Kuscher:$1.4 million
Carl Lindner:$1.3 million
Donald Sussman:$1.2 million

In addition, George Soros has pledged $10 million to defeat Republicans in 2004.

Nobody, but nobody writes out checks this large to the Republican party. There are no $2 million, $3 million, $7 million or $12 million donors to the GOP. None. Zip. Nada. Republicans get their money in $50 chunks froms millions of Americans-- Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Agnostics, Atheists and others...the DNC gets at least one half of their money from Jewish contributors.

Nothing illegal about that. Or immoral.

Just instructive.
 
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Voegelin said:
Jewish population may be decreasing but Jewish influence in our politics is increasing.

Donors to the Democratic Party in 2002:

Haim Saban: $12. 3 million
Fred Eychaner, :$7.4 million
Steven Bing: $7.1 million
Steve Kirsch: $3.3 million
Bernard Schwartz:$2.3 million
Melvin Simon:$2 million
Daniel Abraham: $1.4 million
Charles Kuscher:$1.4 million
Carl Lindner:$1.3 million
Donald Sussman:$1.2 million

In addition, George Soros has pledged $10 million to defeat Republicans in 2004.

Nobody, but nobody writes out checks this large to the Republican party. There are no $2 million, $3 million, $7 million or $12 million donors to the GOP. None. Zip. Nada. Republicans get their money in $50 chunks froms millions of Americans-- Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Agnostics, Atheists and others...the DNC gets at least one half of their money from Jewish contributors.

Nothing illegal about that. Or immoral.

Just instructive.
You should be proud of yourself. You've probably managed to pack more lies into that one post than an entire YEC debate thread over at the creation & evolution forum.

In 2002 the GOP as usual raked in more soft money than the Democrats did, $8 million more in fact. The top soft money donors for the Republicans were mostly corporations and PACs, while for Democrats it was individuals and labor unions.

Your numbers seem to be wrong. Haim Saban only donated $9.2 million to the DNC. Carl Lindner donated $1.5 million to the Republicans, not the Democrats. There are many million-plus contributors to the GOP, though admittedly no single donor approaches the Saban mark. As for the DNC getting half of its money from Jews, and the Republicans being a "grassroots" party, that is absurd and doesn't merit discussing. Sources (1) (2).
 
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