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NothingButTheBlood said:The only place you can smoke here now is your home, porch, car and outside when there is not an event like a ballgame or concert. All indoor smoking is banned except at the casino. I rarely see people smoking outside their home, property or car.
I and everyone I know don't smoke around children, so you can't really put that on all smokers.Jasminrose said:That's not the point at all. Infants and children can't do anything about their parents smoking. I'm not trying to be complete downer on smokers, I understand its a very hard habit to break, and smoking isn't the only bad habit people have that is harmful.
If it bothers you that much then avoid smokers.kopilo said:I've done an edit.
It's my health, my mouth, my clothes, why should someone make my clothes stink and my mouth taste of ash just because I decide to go to something designated as a latin dance event every now and then?
What a non sequitur, I mean that has nothing to do with smoking.Adriac said:If it bothers you that much then avoid suicide bombers.
You don't think I try? Why should I be forced to give up something that gives me confident because of other people's choices?marblehead said:If it bothers you that much then avoid smokers.
Maybe the concept does.What a non sequitur, I mean that has nothing to do with smoking.
It reminds me of a time I was discussing smoking with a friend of mine who was astounded that I have no problem sitting in the smoking section of restaurants. Finally in desperation he asks "would you eat in a restaurant filled with toxic waste?"marblehead said:What a non sequitur, I mean that has nothing to do with smoking.
Give up what?kopilo said:You don't think I try? Why should I be forced to give up something that gives me confident because of other people's choices?
Maybe the concept does.
Then ask people not to smoke around you, I'm sure most people would be respectful of that.kopilo said:latin dance events.
I agree, my grandmother generally cooks oilly, salty 'full of cholesterol' meals and I couldn't tell you the number of times she has been in hospital.DieHappy said:People need to take a class in epidemiology, then read the smoking studies in full, then come back here and re-read the baseless vitriol. Second smoke is the biggest red herring since the invention of red herrings, and there are countless things you can do, and even more commonly, things you don't do but should that contribute to worse health than smoking
We do, unfortunatly some people are not as nice or respectful as you.marblehead said:Then ask people not to smoke around you, I'm sure most people would be respectful of that.
marblehead said:I and everyone I know don't smoke around children, so you can't really put that on all smokers.
fillerbunny said:I think sometimes people refuse help because of the sanctimonious, judgmental, or otherwise unhelpful manner in which said help is provided.
It's one thing to educate someone about healthier habits.. it's another to attempt to shame or demonize them into assuming said habits.
We can't force people to abstain from risky behaviors. Likewise, I think it's important to remember before pointing the judgment finger at someone who's engaging in a behavior we find to be reckless, stupid, etc. that, in all likelihood, that person could just as easily be pointing their finger at us for something we do.
I once watched a morbidly obese middle-aged woman (in the process of consuming two Whoppers, a large fry, a massive soda, and a slice of processed chocolate cream pie) self-righteously condemn some employees who were smoking in front of the BK. "Ugh.. dis-gusting. Look at them, sitting out there sucking on their cancer sticks. Why on earth anyone would smoke is beyond me! They're killing themselves, and for what?"
She kept going on and on, and it was all I could do not to tell her to go have a look in the mirror.. 'cause if she keeps it up, she's going to be dropping from a coronary LONG before that kid gets lung cancer.
We all have our vices. I still say that's no excuse for denying medical care.
What about those who have been educated but still continue on with their unhealthy habbits?fillerbunny said:It's one thing to educate someone about healthier habits.. it's another to attempt to shame or demonize them into assuming said habits.
kopilo said:What about those who have been educated but still continue on with their unhealthy habbits?
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