Supreme Master Ching Hai

[Blessedj01]

You may or may not have heard of her. Here's a video from one of her conferences:

Remember God - The Living Messiah of Our Time - P2/4

A link to one of her books:

http://www.amazon.com/God-Humans-Insights-Bible-Stories/dp/9868106168

I was just reading the first chapter of this book inside a vegan restaurant I like to visit from time to time. Anyway, she makes a direct claim to be "God," simultaneously "sent by God", to be our "comforter," and equates God to being within us, Jesus was just an ambassador...etc.

Anyone else heard of her and heard of her message spreading? She holds big financial clout in Taiwan and has been accused of a lot of dodgy behavior.

Just wondering what your thoughts are on her cult and if you reckon she could get bigger in this gullible age...

 

[56Bluesman]

Nope. Never heard of her. It sounds like she's just one of many deluded, self appointed and self annointed prophets and pseudo-messiahs. History has been full of them as they keep on coming and going, and coming and going.

 

[WinBySurrender]

Just another anti-christ. Not "THE" but one of many before "THE" comes along.

 

[Blessedj01]

I agree that there have been many that come and go. Such is the fate of someone who's so filled with themselves.

It's sad that these people believe this woman though. Their food is very nice but they advertise this stuff all throughout the restaurant.

The book was actually sickening. Her language was very demonic and they actually printed her verbatim talking about "Hes love" and "Hes kindness." In other words, she didn't say "His" she said "Hes." There was an emphasis on it, as if speaking that way made her more spiritual.

Then the opening chapter written in proper English was all about convincing you that she's sent from God and that her message matches that of Jesus, therefore she must be sent by God. However, her message was basically that "the kingdom of God is within you," interpreted as God is something within us as opposed to being the Living God Himself.

I can't really remember more details sorry.

 

[Lovely Lane]

I can't really remember more details sorry

that's fine, now try hard to forget what you do remember about this one.

 

[Lovely Lane]

Just another anti-christ. Not "THE" but one of many before "THE" comes along.

...someday you gonna have to explain to me how many of them there are, and how do I recognize one. Is it like pornography, I know it when I see it?

 

[Blessedj01]

that's fine, now try hard to forget what you do remember about this one.

Don't worry, I only looked at the book for research purposes. I wanted to know what kind of lies were being told.

 

[Blessedj01]

...someday you gonna have to explain to me how many of them there are, and how do I recognize one. Is it like pornography, I know it when I see it?

Interesting question, because some of them are going to be VERY convincing and even perform grand miracles on a world scale.

 

[apache1]

Another religious cult looney. I wouldn't get my bloomers in a wad over this one.

 

[Blessedj01]

...it's not really us that I'm worried about. It's the East.

Ching Hai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also interesting to note that Greenpeace accepts charity from Ching Hai. :/

BTW, could this all be related somewhat do what Jesus said about not judging people based on their diet? Perhaps (in addition to it's other meanings) God knew that some people would base religions and salvation on diet.

 

[Lovely Lane]

Jesus maintained kosher, so why shouldn't all others?

 

[WinBySurrender]

...someday you gonna have to explain to me how many of them there are, and how do I recognize one. Is it like pornography, I know it when I see it?

That wasn't said about pornography. It was said in general about what might violate community standards. As to an anti-christ vs. THE anti-christ, anyone who stands against Christianity is technically an anti-christ. There have been 33 (now, apparently, 34) in post-Messianic ministry who have claimed to be Jesus or generically the son (or daughter) of God. But when THE gets here, we won't be here. (Pre-Trib rapture)

 

[Lovely Lane]

That wasn't said about pornography. It was said in general about what might violate community standards. As to an anti-christ vs. THE anti-christ, anyone who stands against Christianity is technically an anti-christ. There have been 33 (now, apparently, 34) in post-Messianic ministry who have claimed to be Jesus or generically the son (or daughter) of God. But when THE gets here, we won't be here. (Pre-Trib rapture)

ok then, thanks for that.


Jacobellis v. Ohio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I know it when I see it.
....about one of them Frenchmen movies "The Lovers"

 

[WinBySurrender]

ok then, thanks for that.


Jacobellis v. Ohio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I know it when I see it.
....about one of them Frenchmen movies "The Lovers"

I stand corrected, sir. I thought it was said in the course of the pornography debate but not directly about pornography.

 

[Lovely Lane]

I stand corrected, sir. I thought it was said in the course of the pornography debate but not directly about pornography.

hey, whats with the sir baloney? I spent 12.5 years wearing stripes, oh, maybe you're one of those other kind.

 

[WinBySurrender]

hey, whats with the sir baloney? I spent 12.5 years wearing stripes, oh, maybe you're one of those other kind.

Yeah, I was the type that made your life miserable.
You, on the other hand, were the type that made doing my job possible.

 

[Blessedj01]

LOL...I'm really not sure what's going on here...or how kosher came into it.

Anyway, we're all opposed to Ching Hai! Whoohoo!

P.s "ching hai" can be translated to a meaning that's synonymous with "God", btw. Pretty bold huh.

 

[cultleak]

The ching hai cult teach a meditation to new members that they call the Quan Yin Method.
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The Quan Yin method of the Supreme Master Ching Hai Association consists of two parts, light and sound. Initiates are told to do each part in proportion of 1.5 hours of light and 1 hour of sound.

At the Quan Yin initiation of the group this is what they teach of the light part of the method:
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Light part of method
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There are 5 initial regions (dimensions) of the Universe, the physical, the emotional, the mental, a void, and then God (their belief), and each region has it's own God as they call them and to get passed that region to reach the 5th level for this meditation you have to recite the name of that region's ruler.

The five names that the group calls the five holy names are:

Jot-Nir-ran-yan (Physical region) - j is pronounced like y
Onkar (Emotional region) - the k is between g and k
Rarankar (Mental region)
Sohang (Void) - don't over pronounce the g
Satnam (God)

Concentrate on the third eye which is around the center of the forehead and look in front of you (inside) through your third eye and recite the 5 holy names waiting a slight moment before saying the next name. Say each names stretched almost like you're singing it.

 

[Albion]

She may have sensed that an opening exists now that the Rev. Sun Myung Moon has passed away.

You may or may not have heard of her. Here's a video from one of her conferences:

Remember God - The Living Messiah of Our Time - P2/4

A link to one of her books:

http://www.amazon.com/God-Humans-Insights-Bible-Stories/dp/9868106168

I was just reading the first chapter of this book inside a vegan restaurant I like to visit from time to time. Anyway, she makes a direct claim to be "God," simultaneously "sent by God", to be our "comforter," and equates God to being within us, Jesus was just an ambassador...etc.

Anyone else heard of her and heard of her message spreading? She holds big financial clout in Taiwan and has been accused of a lot of dodgy behavior.

Just wondering what your thoughts are on her cult and if you reckon she could get bigger in this gullible age...

 

[cultleak]

This is the other part of the 'secret' Quan Yin Method taught by the ching hai cult. It's a dangerous cult and one of the reasons I'm posting this is so people don't have to join the group headed by a con woman to learn the meditation method they can do so here.
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The Quan Yin Method - The sound part
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The Quan Yin Method taught by the Ching Hai cult consists of two parts, light and sound. Initiates are told to do each part in proportion of 1.5 hours of light and 1 hour of sound.

At the Quan Yin initiation of the group this is what they teach:

Sound part of method
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Go into a completely squatting position with your elbows resting on your legs, or sitting on with a table with the elbows on the table, then block the ears with the thumbs inserted in them and the palms on head, do not put any fingers on the third eye (that is around the center of the forehead). Concentrate on the third eye and you should then hear some sounds. At the initiation they say don't let anyone see you doing this part of the method and quite often during group meditation initiates would cover themselves with a sheet or blanket while doing it. Ignore any sounds from the left, behind or below as they may be from Ghosts or demons, concentrate only sounds coming from the front, right and above. You'll hear 'heavenly' sounds which would be things like a harp, bells, whistles, flute, bagpipe,etc... To increase the chance of hearing sounds sit in the squat position, another thing you can do to increase the likelihood of success in this method is keeping the left thumb fully inserted while having the right thumb inserted but not fully.

There are 5 levels of which you'll hear sounds from, sounds at each level may include:

5th Level - Trumpet
4th Level - Flute
3rd Level - Harp, guitar
2nd Level - Sea tide sound or temple bells, church bells
1st Level - Bells, wind