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<blockquote data-quote="o_mlly" data-source="post: 76205936" data-attributes="member: 434838"><p>Thank you for elaborating on your positions. </p><p></p><p>It seems to me, in arguing for the application of justice or mercy toward another as a fundamental obligation, the Christian bases his argument on the existence a transcendental being that prescribes that we love the other as oneself. </p><p></p><p>The atheist, if he is to be rational, has no transcendent being to which he can appeal in his argument for treating others justly or charitably. As there is for him no life but this life, he can only appeal to arguments that appeal to utility, arguments that move the<em> individual </em>to act only in order to increase his pleasure or reduce his suffering. The idea of justice, and certainly of mercy, are not ideas that the atheist's worldview can reach. </p><p></p><p>In as much as your arguments align with utility, defined as increasing pleasures or reducing suffering for humanity then they seem to me consistent with your worldview. Where your arguments against capital punishment do not then it seems you must invoke the Christian view of a moral order also written on your heart that requires you to love your neighbor for your neighbor's sake as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="o_mlly, post: 76205936, member: 434838"] Thank you for elaborating on your positions. It seems to me, in arguing for the application of justice or mercy toward another as a fundamental obligation, the Christian bases his argument on the existence a transcendental being that prescribes that we love the other as oneself. The atheist, if he is to be rational, has no transcendent being to which he can appeal in his argument for treating others justly or charitably. As there is for him no life but this life, he can only appeal to arguments that appeal to utility, arguments that move the[I] individual [/I]to act only in order to increase his pleasure or reduce his suffering. The idea of justice, and certainly of mercy, are not ideas that the atheist's worldview can reach. In as much as your arguments align with utility, defined as increasing pleasures or reducing suffering for humanity then they seem to me consistent with your worldview. Where your arguments against capital punishment do not then it seems you must invoke the Christian view of a moral order also written on your heart that requires you to love your neighbor for your neighbor's sake as well. [/QUOTE]
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