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Superman 2 Richard Donner Cut

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How is it different?

Click the spoiler button if you want to know some of the differences...

...there's no Eiffel tower scene
...he destroys the Fortress of Solitude
...he doesn't erase Lois' memory by kissing her at the end..instead he turns back time
...the bad guys aren't released from the Phantom Zone by the Eiffel tower elevator being thrown into space but instead by the bomb from Superman 1.
 
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This cut makes no sense. It's Superman 2 with the Superman 1 ending. Superman Returns is supposed to follow this Richard Donner cut, but how did Lois get pregnant? Superman reversed time by flying around the Earth backwards and undoing the whole movie, hence he never had sex with Lois, hence she can't be pregnant. And he reversed time to right before the phantom zone mirror was shattered by the shockwave off the nuke from Superman 1, but it never shows what he did with the nuke instead of throwing it into space, so we assume he did the same thing, Zod got out again, and the movie repeats itself for eternity. It was not very well thought-out in my opinion.

It's worth a watch, but I prefer the original theatrical cut.
 
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Superman Returns is supposed to follow this Richard Donner cut
Are you sure about that. From what I read it took after the regular cut.

but how did Lois get pregnant? Superman reversed time by flying around the Earth backwards and undoing the whole movie, hence he never had sex with Lois, hence she can't be pregnant.
Well another question is, if they did stay with the regular version, he made her forget about it all with the kiss. So wouldn't she be wondering how he impregnated her?

It's worth a watch, but I prefer the original theatrical cut.
Actually, I enjoyed this much more. A few things I disliked such as the time reversal trick again. And I did NOT like how the 'general, would you care to step outside' got changed to something that totally hurt that scene. I can't ever remember the exact words he used but I know I didnt care for it.

I really liked the scene where lois is drawing glasses etc. on a pic of clark in the paper then jumps out. That cracked me up.

And I also found the exploding rocket as a way to to open up the phantom zone cool too. :)
 
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Are you sure about that. From what I read it took after the regular cut.

I read it somewhere online, which is always accurate. :) See part two below.

Well another question is, if they did stay with the regular version, he made her forget about it all with the kiss. So wouldn't she be wondering how he impregnated her?

Part two: Precisely. We have two versions of the movie. In one, everyone forgets everything that happened. In the other, everything that happened was erased by Superman going back in time. Either way, the movie was null and void. That belittles the movie and makes it irrelevant. What took place during that time period the second time around? Who knows? Bad writing, IMO.

And I also found the exploding rocket as a way to to open up the phantom zone cool too. :)

That was cool...until it was undone by Superman reversing time, so it never really happened anyways. Lame.

I enjoyed both versions, but both versions ticked me off as well. They could have been so much better with a few minor changes.
 
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That was cool...until it was undone by Superman reversing time, so it never really happened anyways. Lame.
I really dislike the entire aspect of reversing time in there. I mean anytime something goes wrong, just go back in time. Heck, all he had to do once the villains tried to make their mark on our planet was go back and this time around make sure they never escaped or if not that, just be ready for them.


Another thing I liked was that the villains were more menacing in this one.

Here's that scene I hated where the words were changed for the worse. :sigh:



 
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