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I was fine until i went to sing and then it all hit me there was a guy sitting at the very end of the front pew who's hair and glasses and face looked like perp So i tried calming down - during the first song i went out the back and took a few deep breaths etc and then came out and sung again with this guy still sitting in the front row - so during the entire singing thing I kept my eyes directly on andrew.

the sermon ... I knew that this series would be tough / challenging / triggering but had no idea just how much. The Pastor talked about the bible verse and everything i was prepared for that but had no idea where he was going to take it ... basically the jist was that we have to forgive people because Jesus forgave us by dying on the cross so many years ago.

Forgiveness is a choice not a feeling ... hmm ok i could handle that

Forgiveness is choosing not to hold the sin against them ... yeah ok easier said then done but doable

Forgiveness is choosing to live with the consequences of another person's sin ...

he used an example of a 17 yr old girl (the same age i was when i was r***d) who was hideously deformed and about how she forgave him.

I am honestly trying to not hold a grudge against him but the whole thing of living with the consequences just because of him not being able to keep it in his pants and he gets to have a normal life ... God punish him because I am suffering because of his sin.

and then during the last song i was trying to hold it together until the worship leader did the worship leader bit and mentioned that we should surrender all of our hurts to god ... if i wasn't on stage i would have probably started crying.

People look at forgiveness as something that is so easy to do and its not its something that basically says you hurt me but i forgive you and u can go have a normal life and yet I am left with my life in pieces. I am not rebuking my forgiveness of my perp but people make it sound so easy to forgive grrrr

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Its not easy to forgive. Healing is quite a process, and it is often only after we are well along the road that we can then look realistically at forgiveness. Forgiveness of often presented as a kind of mantra, or 'quick fix', but it isn't.

I also wonder. Is God going to forgive a person who refuses to live in relationship with Him for their entire life? So, if God does not forgive because the person has not put things right with Him then for us to forgive someone who has not put things right with us.......?

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Do you want to forgive him?
You need to WANT to forgive him completely before you can! I know it's hard, I want to forgive those whom abused me, and I know God will get me there in time, just as he'll get you there too! Take things in little steps, that's the only way any of us can do things, and do things with God, without God, we are all powerless to do anything!
PM me anytime you wanna chat! God bless, I'll be praying for you!
 
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Forgiving is a process,i had to take it and some ppl on here are in the middle or begining,it all takes time.It took me a while i know that but i had help,by my freinds and i prayed alot,and i can forgive them,it just takes a while but like a thousand prayers later and alot of talking later it all works out,lol j/k about the prayers but really praying is the first step in forgiving.Pm me anytime sweetie.Ill be here.:hug: 's.




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I'm with you all the way. I read "Lives of the Saints" nearly every day to keep myself motivated by the austere lives lived by my brothers and sisters who came before me. However, I chuckle from time to time, actually quite often when I read it because the Church authors make it all sound so easy. Like St. So and So just woke up one morning and were holy or were exposed to such and such horrible torture and accepted martyrdom like it were a cheese sandwich. Traversing the Way takes all your heart, will, and energy. Not to mention the Grace of God. So fret not my little sister. God is a million times more patient then we'll ever be, and He loves us all a whole bunch. Keep praying, contemplating, and trying to forgive. Pray that God not punish but lead your 'perp' to Truth. Contemplate the forgiveness Christ asked for the men nailing Him to the Cross. And keep trying to forgive your brother for his offense. You'll overcome and become the complete soul, the daughter, that your Father knows you can become.
 
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