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Stupid geberal ed classes *rant*

benedictine

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I'm so tired by general education requirements. I had them in High School, now I have them in College. Science and MAth courses, a foregin language, ALL things that I will never, ever need. one of my teachers last year in HS told me that it was becuase " if you ever decide to become an enginerr, for example", well, blah. Another one of my teachers told me he was lying, and that if I needed a skill, I'd learn it. :confused:

My mom just read me the general ed requirements for the uni I want to transfer to, and the statement regarding it, and it was a bunch of baloney about being well rounded and all that. :mad:

Ok, I'm done. :)
 

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I feel ya! I hated Gen Ed courses in college--- they are the reason my GPA was not as high as I would have liked it to be.

Just think, though... once you finish undergrad, if you choose to go on to grad.... during grad there are no gen ed courses--- you take only what you want to take in regards to what your degree is in.

I absolutely LOVE my master's degree classes. No complaints at all.
 
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I didn't like GE either. I don't know many people who did/do. I also fought the school about taking the classes. Yeah, that's a way to win friends and influence people.

BUT I can say, many, many years removed from GE classes, I am glad I took them (I think I just heard my credibility crash ^_^ ) - hear me out. While you don't necessarily use the things taught in those classes, you may be confronted with them in the news, in your job, in basic conversation, and it provides at least a little basis to understand what's being discussed in the papers or on TV, to work with your clients, to carry on a conversation.

It doesn't mean you'll enjoy the GE classes, and it doesn't make them easier to sit through. But the thing of it is that they do serve a purpose other than to torment you and keep the GPA down (most of my really bad grades were in GE classes). Even the science classes (my biggest downfall). They teach you a different way to think and a different approach to things and expose you to people whose outlook is different from you (in other words, science types have to associate with humanities types).

But all that said, yeah, GE classes do stink.
 
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FlatpickingJD said:
They teach you a different way to think and a different approach to things and expose you to people whose outlook is different from you (in other words, science types have to associate with humanities types).

I like the way I think now. why do I have to change?

I can't learn from science types. The only math teacher I had who I learned from was a reader, like me, and thus, we could relate.
 
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I think they are great actually. First you can learn things you may not have had the opportunity to learn while in high school. For example, for my 2 science credits I needed in college, I took geology of dinosaurs and astronomy, two classes that weren't offered in my high school. Both classes were easy and fun!Second, sometimes most gen ed classes go for your degree, mine did! Thirds, if you don't have a major, gen ed classes are perfect for finding what you might want to major in, instead of taking gen ed classes that wont go for anything, i.e. a waste of time and money!
 
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I'm hoping that I Can get all of my GEs done before I transfer to a school I will get a degree from. Right now I'll be going to a community college, hopefully credits will transfer and cover my GE requirements. But I can see both sides of the argument.
 
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thepinkpencil3 said:
I'm hoping that I Can get all of my GEs done before I transfer to a school I will get a degree from. Right now I'll be going to a community college, hopefully credits will transfer and cover my GE requirements.
Yea, I am doing the same thing.
 
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benedictine said:
My mom just read me the general ed requirements for the uni I want to transfer to, and the statement regarding it, and it was a bunch of baloney about being well rounded and all that. :mad:

Ok, I'm done. :)

Yeah, they are just so the uni can say that they gave you a full education.
 
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Occasionally some of it does become useful later on. You never know when something you learned in one of those first year classes that didn't seem to fit your major might come up later on.

An psychology major might need the knowledge gained in first year stats to analyze the data she collects in a study on depression. A biology major might need to rely on skills from his first year English class to write a paper to convince people that a certain species needs to be protected. An English major might be grateful for an understanding of first year biology and chemistry when he decides to write a detective novel with a forensics theme running through it. A math major might be glad to have that second language when she decides to do some travelling in another country. An engineering major might look back on a first year drama class and realize that he's learned how to think on his feet and is now a little more outgoing - skills that will help him out in his career.

If you want a super focussed education, then take a short program, such as tech schools offer. If you want a broader education that will challenge you to excercise your mind in several areas before focussing in on one area, then get a university degree.
 
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benedictine said:
I'm so tired by general education requirements. I had them in High School, now I have them in College. Science and MAth courses, a foregin language, ALL things that I will never, ever need. one of my teachers last year in HS told me that it was becuase " if you ever decide to become an enginerr, for example", well, blah. Another one of my teachers told me he was lying, and that if I needed a skill, I'd learn it. :confused:

My mom just read me the general ed requirements for the uni I want to transfer to, and the statement regarding it, and it was a bunch of baloney about being well rounded and all that. :mad:

Ok, I'm done. :)
science...that can be personally edifying. I wound up taking a geology course when I lived in arizona and besides some moments of extreme boredom, I learned to appreciate planet Earth a little more. So if you're lucky you can have a science class that ends up being kind of cool.
math. there is no hope for math. I hate math.

Foreign language. You can discover an entire new world by means of a foreign language. I almost recommend majoring in one. Dont' pick your foreign language because you "have to." Take something you think you would be interested in. I like russian literature. I kind of wish I could have taken russian. As a religion major I took greek and fell insanely in love with it. I wish I could ahve discovered it back in high school. I would like to learn classical Greek and Latin now and study the classics. Most people hate every moment of their foreign language and completely miss out on everything good about it.

I know some gen ed classes are a drag. But if you're going to school in order to get an "education" then get an education. Come away with more than a piece of paper that you will hang on the wall.
 
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Ok, call me weird, but i love the gerenal education requirements. I have already cimpleted mine and nwo only have a few courses in my major left. I like learning about a ton of different things, and the general education classes do that for me. IN high school I hated history to no end, but one history class i took in college completely changed that for me and I actually like it now.
 
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I didn't mind GE classes. Admittedly when i took them, I didn't focus on them and didn't put the time I needed to into them. I got some Bs that would have been easy As had I put a shred of effort into them. On the other hand, I can now carry on an intelligent conversation about American history, different types of music, ethnomusicology, and astronomy. Ok, admittedly, astronomy was an elective because my major covered all my science requirements....

I can't tell you much from my pol sci or economics class, but those classes I made a point to not learn anything. stupid me..... I also made Bs that could have been As.

Gen Ed classes also gave me a break from all math/science classes. I actually made a point to always have 1 non-math/science class every semester. This means I took more electives than I had to, but I had a great time in some of these other classes.
 
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Those who hate general educations classes are often at the wrong school. There are many technical programs and schools that provide specific subject matter classes with little or no Gen Ed classes. Don't blame your college if you did not read the graduation requirements carefully.

A liberal arts core is about far more than learning to do a particular job.
 
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bliz said:
Those who hate general educations classes are often at the wrong school. There are many technical programs and schools that provide specific subject matter classes with little or no Gen Ed classes. Don't blame your college if you did not read the graduation requirements carefully.

A liberal arts core is about far more than learning to do a particular job.

See, with me, I'm ata Technical College. Beacuase my guidance counselor assured me I'd get into the State Uni, I didn't apply anywhere else. Well, there was a record number of applicants, along with the new SAT, which resulted in my not getting in. So I'm to Tech school for a year before I transfer.
 
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You kids these days have no appreciation for education. :D

Ok, so I can't speak a lot about it, but I've learned a few things today. I used to hate Gen Ed classes. I felt they were useless to my career in life. However, now I think they are more than essential.

I am currently in the ministry. Although in school, I changed majors a lot. I studied computer science, business and education. I have used things that I have learned in all those classes and my GE classes.

One thing that I have learned is we must understand how our classes relate to Christianity. When we study biology, we are studying God's design for animals. When we study geology, we see how God set about to make life habitable. When we study astronomy, we see what else God did. As we study physics, we see the laws God put about in our universe. When we study English, we see many people's writing styles and grammer, which God used when he communicated to us. When we study history, we see how God has worked in time and how people have been influenced by God. When we study psychology, we get to look at the way men behave a part from God.

It should be apparent that in the right context, everything can be used towards God. In fact, our study might even be a form of worship to God as we seek to learn more about him.
 
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