Study On Luke 16:19

[LittleLambofJesus]

I in some ways view this man as a type of "anti-christ" who is trying take the place of JESUS/God.

I would like to study just on this one verse for this thread and look at all the words used in it to see how they are used in other places.

I will be using the Greek text and I welcome anyone that is interested in this to give views or even if they would like to study the words used in this verse.

I am still learning the greek and the various ways words are used in the NT.

While translating this verse from the the greek I noticed this greek word #1737. A prefex is used with it which I haven't yet been able to determine the meaning of but will research it. The root word comes pretty close to the one used in Matt 22:11 which uses a different suffix.

Luke 16:19 A certain Man was rich and clothed/enedidu-sketo <1737> (5710) purple and fine-linen making-merry down to a-day, shiningly

Textus Rec.) Luke 16:19 anqrwpoV de tiV hn plousioV kai enedidu-sketo porfuran kai busson eufrainomenoV kaq hmeran lamprwV

Matthew 22:11 And into coming yet the King, to gaze of the ones the reclining at table, he saw there a Man not clothed/endedu-menon <1746> (5765) cothing/enduma <1742> of wedding-feast:

1746. enduo en-doo'-o from 1722 and 1416 (in the sense of sinking into a garment); to invest with clothing (literally or figuratively):--array, clothe (with), endue, have (put) on.
1722. en en a primary preposition denoting (fixed) position (in place, time or state), and (by implication) instrumentality (medially or constructively),
1417. duo doo'-o a primary numeral; "two":--both, twain, two.
1416. duno doo'-no or dumi doo'-mee prolonged forms of an obsolete primary duo doo'-o (to sink) to go "down":--set.
3306. meno men'-o a primary verb; to stay (in a given place, state, relation or expectancy):--abide, continue, dwell, endure, be present, remain, stand, tarry (for), X thine own.

 

[Nilloc]

Hi LLOJ,
To me, the Rich Man seems to represent the Pharisees and the other apostate Jews who were againist Jesus.

You think the Rich Man is Judah (the nation) right?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Hi LLOJ,
To me, the Rich Man seems to represent the Pharisees and the other apostate Jews who were againist Jesus.

You think the Rich Man is Judah (the nation) right?

He could symbolize a few things. Adam/Eve the first sinners, and even Cain, the first "murderer" comes to mind. Just a few of the OT types/shadows this Man is symbolizing. He appears to be the essence of Sin.

Here is another place that form of the word for "clothed" is used concerning the demon possessed man [except the greek word for man is different here] and that suffix in # 1737 is kind of intriguing me:

Luke 16:19 A certain Man/anqrwpoV <444> was rich and clothed/in-slipped/enedidu-sketo <1737> (5710) purple and fine-linen making-merry down to a-day, shiningly

Luke 8:27 To coming out yet Him upon the land, there meets a certain Man/anhr <435> out of the city having demons and to time considerable, and garment not clothed/in-slipped/enedidu-sketo <1737> (5710) and in house not remained/emenen <3306> (5707) but in the tombs.

Textus Rec.) Luke 8:27 exelqonti de autw epi thn ghn uphnthsen autw anhr tiV ek thV polewV oV eicen daimonia ek cronwn ikanwn kai imation ouk enedidusketo kai en oikia ouk emenen all en toiV mnhmasin

 

[Nilloc]

I think I see what you're saying about the "clothed" thing.

What do you think the purple and fine linen are symbolizing? Wasn't that like what the Levitical priests wore?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Luke 16:19 A certain Man was rich and clothed/in-slipped/enedidu-sketo <1737> (5710) purple and fine-linen making-merry down to a-day, shiningly

I think I see what you're saying about the "clothed" thing.

What do you think the purple and fine linen are symbolizing? Wasn't that like what the Levitical priests wore?

I believe He could be symbolizing a type of High Priest of the Levitical Priestood. The Tribe of Levi was also of the Nation of Judah, which consisted of Judah and Benjamin.
Here is another interesting verse where purple is used with that form of the word.

Mark 15:20 And, when they deride to Him, they out-slipped/ex-edusan <1562> (5656) Him, the purple, and in-slipped/en-edusan <1746> (5656) of Him to the garments, to the own. And they are out leading Him, that they should be crucifying Him.

Textus Rec.) Mark 15:20 kai ote enepaixan autw exedusan auton thn porfuran kai enedusan auton ta imatia ta idia kai exagousin auton ina staurwswsin auton

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Luke 16:19 A certain Man was rich and clothed/in-slipped/enedidu-sketo <1737> (5710) purple and fine-linen making-merry down to a-day, shiningly

Here is an instance where King Herod is mentioned using the form of that word, though again, the prefix is different. Also used in Reve 1:13. I am beginning to see why early Christians viewed this as the Pope as both a "king/ruler and priest".

I mainly like to see where most of the words are used in Revelation, especially since that Man appears to already be in a type of "Lake of Fire". I will be going on to the next word used as "purple" next. Thoughts?

http://www.scripture4all.org/

Acts 12:21 An appointed yet day, the Herod, in-slipping/endusamenoV <1746> (5671) a garment, kingly/royal, and being seated upon the dais, he harangued toward them.

http://www.olivetree.com/cgi-bin/EnglishBible.htm

Textus Rec.) Acts 12:21 takth de hmera o hrwdhV endusa-menoV esqhta basilikhn kai kaqisaV epi tou bhmatoV edhmhgorei proV autouV

Reve 1:13 And in midst of the seven lampstands one-like a Son of Man, having been in-slipped/endedu-menon <1746> (5765) to feet, and having been about-girded towards the breasts a purse, golden.

 

[Chickapee]

Hi Guys ,
great thread ! good to see you both ,

I hope this is not too off track , but my mind went to the 3 types of robes they clothed Christ in ...



good stuff guys I dont want to mess up your study , ,

I will butt out , just tell me ok

I remember Jesus being stripped and put in the red/scarlet robe

the gorgeous / Brilliant robe
I Believe the purple and gorgeous robe are of mockery though dont you ?

which unwittingly they put on Him , and Jesus should have been wearing
Rightly so representing of royal decent/bith right and glory/kingly and red /scarlet im not sure what that means blood of grapes/wine maybe ?

I also believe that the rich man reperents taking the place of Gods son

these 3 have said it , from the begining all the law and prophets were killed , beaten and mistreated all warned of Gods wrath coming to the wicked hearted , they all wanted the Inheritance for themselves

and the last being what is /was /and will be done to Jesus Christ the Son of God
cause I do see it as a continual /perpetual Word of God declaring to the End , and I dont know the End but the Lord knows in whom i trust ..

the rich man is a robber and thief as well stealing Gods glory / Sons Glory to God


mat 21;37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.

mark 12:6 Having yet therefore one son, his wellbeloved, he sent him also last unto them, saying, They will reverence my son.

luke 20 :13 Then said the lord of the vineyard, What shall I do? I will send my beloved son: it may be they will reverence [him] when they see him.

God bles you ..peace C

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

The next 2 words I want to focus on is the word for "purple" and "fine-linen".

Luke 16:19 A certain Man was rich and in-slipped/en-edidu-sketo purple/porfuran <4209> and fine-linen/busson <1040> making-merry down to a-day, shiningly

Reve 18:12 merchandise/cargoes of gold, and of silver, and of precious stone, and of pearl, and of fine linen/bussou <1040>, and of purple/porfuraV <4209>, and of silk, and of scarlet, and every citron wood, and every ivory vessel, and every precious vessel out of wood, and of brass, and of iron, and of marble,

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I also found something else interesting. The greek word used for "abyss" is very similar to the greek word used in Reve 18:12 except for the letter "a" before it, which generally denotes a "negative" for a word. Perhaps someone knowledgable in the greek might give some help.

http://www.scripture4all.org/

Luke 16:19 A certain Man was rich and in-slipped/en-edidu-sketo purple/porfuran <4209> and fine-linen/busson <1040>

Reve 18:12 merchandise/cargoes of gold, and of silver, and of precious stone, and of pearl, and of fine linen/bussou <1040>, and of purple/porfuraV <4209>,

Reve 11:7 `And whenever they should be finishing the witness of them, the wild-beast/n, the-one ascending out of the Abyss/abussou<12>, shall be doing battle with them......................