Strivonism: A New Theology

James McNeill · Oct 29, 2015

So I have been revising my idea for a new sect and would love some help revising it and incorporating ideas. You do not have to believe in what I say, I would just like help revising it, organizing the idea, and setting it in stone.

The main tenets are:
1. The Universe was made perfectly imperfect by God so that we can build a version of His Kingdom here.
2. That Math and Science are the true word of God
3. The Bible is to be used to teach us how to use His word and not take everything in it verbatim as it is written by many who tend to contradict each other.
4. God purposely made the universe imperfect so we can fix and build His Kingdom here as best we can to get closer with Him.
5. Jesus and His death is what gave us light of what we should be like to build/ fix the universe and only though Him can we achieve perfection.
6. We can never achieve the perfection we strive to, yet we still do so out of love and respect to the Lord knowing that only through Him we can achieve the perfection we strive towards.
7. No religion is more right than the other and we can interact with each other as long as it helps aid in the blueprint the Lord left to us.
8. The explanation for different religions, in the eyes of Strivonism, is that the Lord purposely came to the different peoples of the world differently just to see if we can cooperate with each other even if we differ on deep things.
9. God does not get directly involved but instead gives us hints to what we need to do.

Thanks for your help

ScottA · Oct 29, 2015

You are so out in left field...you think left field is a place to make up stuff and act on your conjecture.

Imagine, if you will (if you want to understand the world and the universe), that we were all born into a large room, and no one had ever seen or been outside. So inside the room, no one could possibly have a clue about what is outside...unless the information came into the room from the outside.

The information in the bible came from the outside (from people who were approached by God, from the outside).

Did your information come from outside? Could you be doing anything more than taking wild guesses at the big questions of life?

No.

...Maybe it would be a good idea for you to ask questions...instead of trying to answer them.

James McNeill · Oct 29, 2015

ScottA said:
You are so out in left field...you think left field is a place to make up stuff and act on your conjecture.

Imagine, if you will (if you want to understand the world and the universe), that we were all born into a large room, and no one had ever seen or been outside. So inside the room, no one could possibly have a clue about what was outside...unless the information came into the room from the outside.

The information in the bible came from the outside (from people who were approached by God, from the outside).

Did your information come from outside? Could you be doing anything more than taking wild guesses at the big questions of life?

No.

...Maybe it would be a good idea for you to ask questions...instead of trying to answer them.

Well actually, I got this revelation from a dream when i was recovering from when I nearly died

ScottA · Oct 29, 2015

James McNeill said:
Well actually, I got this revelation from a dream when i was recovering from when I nearly died

There are all kinds of dreams. Yours does not agree with God's messengers.

Davian · Oct 29, 2015

ScottA said:
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Could you be doing anything more than taking wild guesses at the big questions of life?

ScottA · Oct 29, 2015

Davian said:

Is there a emoticon for "Personal Vendetta?"

Gottservant · Oct 29, 2015

The interesting thing about religion when constructed, is that more than once is always expected - but twice subtracted is almost always deplored.

Basically, if you are going to add, do not do it simply and only at some point, only ever.

Fix is definitely work, hard to say it would be "definitively - with what you have written" (but you may).

durangodawood · Oct 29, 2015

ScottA said:
There are all kinds of dreams. Yours does not agree with God's messengers.

What if he IS one of Gods messengers?

Davian · Oct 29, 2015

ScottA said:
Is there a emoticon for "Personal Vendetta?"

Of course you would think of this as personal. Did you know that no one actually posted anything of note in this forum until after you joined this site?

Crowns&Laurels · Oct 29, 2015

8. The explanation for different religions, in the eyes of Strivonism, is that the Lord purposely came to the different peoples of the other worlds differently just to see if we can cooperate with each other even if we differ on deep things.

If you change 'the world' to 'other worlds', the entirety of the nine tenets would be the Star Trek version of Christianity

ScottA · Oct 30, 2015

durangodawood said:
What if he IS one of Gods messengers?

Then he would agree, but he does not, so his is not. A tree is know by its fruit.

Davian · Oct 30, 2015

durangodawood said:
What if he IS one of Gods messengers?

But he does not agree with Scott. One of them must be wrong.

Of course, they could both be wrong.

juvenissun · Oct 31, 2015

James McNeill said:
1. The Universe was made perfectly imperfect by God so that we can build a version of His Kingdom here.

Is there anything God made perfectly?
If nothing, why not?

durangodawood · Oct 31, 2015

juvenissun said:
Is there anything God made perfectly?
If nothing, why not?

The electron.

juvenissun · Nov 1, 2015

durangodawood said:
The electron.

If electron is perfect, then why not neutron? why not proton? Why not other atomic particles?

I don't take your answer as a good one for the concerns in the OP. The whole theology of the OP is that God does not create perfect things. This is a major attribute of his "god". I think it is a very troublesome theology.

durangodawood · Nov 1, 2015

juvenissun said:
If electron is perfect, then why not neutron? why not proton? Why not other atomic particles?

I don't take your answer as a good one for the concerns in the OP. The whole theology of the OP is that God does not create perfect things. This is a major attribute of his "god". I think it is a very troublesome theology.

Seems like nothing is perfect. Everything changes. Except for, perhaps, certain subatomic particles.

juvenissun · Nov 1, 2015

durangodawood said:
Seems like nothing is perfect. Everything changes. Except for, perhaps, certain subatomic particles.

Recall the Genesis 1. After each Day's creation, God says: It Is Good.
That means, God's creations, plants, animals, stars, human, etc. are ALL perfect.
The OP totally misidentified the problem.

durangodawood · Nov 1, 2015

juvenissun said:
Recall the Genesis 1. After each Day's creation, God says: It Is Good.
That means, God's creations, plants, animals, stars, human, etc. are ALL perfect.
The OP totally misidentified the problem.

What???
Good is not the same as perfect.
Lots of "good" things arent perfect. In my experience, ALL good things are imperfect in some way.

ecco · Nov 1, 2015

James McNeill said:
7. No religion is more right than the other and we can interact with each other as long as it helps aid in the blueprint the Lord left to us.

In other words: Other religions are OK as long as they don't disagree with our religion.

That's the unspoken view of all religions.

FrumiousBandersnatch · Nov 1, 2015

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