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This is going to be weird and bit long, but I figure I should ask for comments. I am a protestant, Christian from 14yrs old but quickly fell off the wagon by 16 into all sorts of occultism, sex drugs and rock and roll. I’ve been single all my life as well, no children and completely wild and off the chain until about 10 years ago when I got sober and back in line with Christ. I am now 57.

I had lived a fun and exciting off the edge double life as a Data Architect and Sr. Programmer by day and high caliber illicit drug dealer at night. Life has really been a lot of fun. Too much fun probably. Money will actually buy you happiness at least for a while.

Recently I took home a female grifter less than half my age who claimed as most do, that she was “down on her luck”. Being familiar with grifters and willing to utilize the time to witness to her, before shutting her game plan down and tossing her back to the street with a lot of good helpful information in hand and an experience from me that she wouldn’t soon forget, I fed her, shared the gospel, and even prayed with her. So, we headed to my place.

This is where the odd part of the story begins… When I suggested prayer at very early hours of the next morning, she was at first reluctant, but ultimately when I agreed to prick my finger with this dagger (a kris technically) that she had and drip blood in a vile for her to keep she agreed to pray with me. A pretty simple sacrifice if you ask me. However, knowing this meant the proverbial game was afoot.

In the background of this I had a Wi-Fi phone hacking tool working on cracking her phone. You never know who you’re dealing with right? Wrong, I usually do . Anyway, we prayed for a few minutes and she interrupted it for a minute to claim she needed to go to the bathroom. Before she went, she took something from her purse. She had at least taken her phone. Being that I had a hacking tool working on it, I went and temporarily disable it to avoid detection and began reviewing her chat text.

Turns out she had recently scored about an ounce of meth, which I quickly located in her purse. I also found a Ouija board and a planchette in her backpack, which I deliberately defiled by cracking it and put it back. When she came back, we continued praying for a few minutes and a while after she became very seductive. I played along some more until I started feeling a bit of conviction and then my phone rang.

I used this as an excuse to end our little evening together and told her my girlfriend would be coming over in a little while and that I would need to take her somewhere, anywhere or all hell would break loose. She smirked and agreed that all hell would break loose most likely, but ultimately, we left and I dropped her off at a city bus stop several miles from my house (I live in a big city)

As soon as I had left her, I called the police and told them somewhat anonymously that there was a female drug dealer at such and such bus stop. I slowly made my way around the block and sure enough the police were already there and appeared to be arresting her.


This is where the problems seem to start. Once I got home, I enter my place and I heard a loud door slam. But upon investigating it was nothing, perhaps the back door was open and air pressure caused it, who knows. I went to the bathroom and while in there I began to smell something odd as if it was a recently extinguished flame. I looked all over and when I pulled back the shower curtain, I found a small plastic tray with a tiny melted down candle a few feathers and blood drops scattered around it in the shape of a pentagram. I cleaned this up fast however the grifter chic left her lipstick under my bathroom counter which my girlfriend found. It took a while but she is a true blonde and I was eventually able to convince her it was her old one from a log time ago.

Perhaps I was too quick to assume I was in control of the night’s events. Since this time, I occasionally wake up to strange sounds and voices, door slamming etc.…, I’ve had an abnormal number of flats on my car, and in the last 3 months my girlfriend and I have had several arguments and break ups. It’s like I’ve been cursed or something.

I even looked up this grifters police record and jail log for the appropriate dates and oddly no one under that name was ever arrested. I’m not sure if I need to be concerned. Also last night my girlfriend answer her phone and said “oh Hi Deanne” and quickly excused herself. No big deal, right? Wrong the grifters first name that she gave me was Deann… Im starting to think my girlfriend may be up to something bad. This is all so weird, any comments feel free.
 

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Considering your background and that of the young lady, I suggest you talk to your pastor or priest.

They may be able to recommend someone with a deliverance ministry. I'm Catholic so obviously I'm biased, but if it were me I'd talk to the parish priest.

I'd also ask him to sprinkle holy water around my house.

Time will tell if your girlfriend is up to something or not. You will need to keep your wits about you in the meantime.

A lot of people open themselves up to demonic influences if they dabble in the occult. Both you and the girl fall into this category.

Meanwhile there are some prayers you could say which may help.


 
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The demons in occultism are among the most difficult to shed/cast off and keep rid of. They want back in. You have to be fully committed to Christ, have the Holy Spirit, then you have authority in Jesus' name to rid them. Pray your house out and anoint with oil any time someone strange has visited and leaves your dwelling.

You can no longer dabble in that stuff, it's an open invitation and exposes a double nature. IE no compromise. And for the record, demons are real. They are real entities.
 
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Trust Jesus the Lord to guide you.

"Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you." (James 4:7)

Do not get into situations like that. Have some regard for a woman, not treating her like a "dumb blond". If you try to fool her and lie to her, you are not loving her; because you are hoping she will be easy to fool. And betraying trust is not loving! Satan is the Father of lying; so do not partner with Satan; or else, you are operating in his kingdom so you are available to what he can bring your way. And he won't be fair.

Help a woman to become wise in Jesus and guided by Jesus so she won't be easy to fool. Love her, by helping her. Love her by praying for her and making her wise to you so you can't fool her. Or else, you can know she is easy to fool and some other who-knows-who can fool her, too; and so how ever can you be sure you can trust her??

Unless you help her to have honest and reliable perception, you can't have genuine trust for a truly deep relationship in God's love! So your lying can help to destroy you from genuine loving in Jesus.

And unforgiveness can make us available to things with stings of Satan's kingdom of evil. So, by tricking the grifter to where she could be arrested could be what Jesus would consider unforgiving.

I note how readily you were able to want to fool your girlfriend and the other woman. Do you have a problem with genuinely loving and caring for women??

Have you read how Jesus related with women?

John 8 > The adulteress was clearly condemned, worthy of stoning to death. But Jesus brought her to much better.

Luke 10:38-42 > Mary was criticized by her sister, but Jesus stood up for Mary and guaranteed her the good of God.

You need to help women to get better than they deserve. And have hope for them to gain all the good of God. Love "hopes all things" (in 1 Corinthians 13:7). So, love women by having hope for them, instead of playing them and betraying them with lying.
 
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This is where the odd part of the story begins… When I suggested prayer at very early hours of the next morning, she was at first reluctant, but ultimately when I agreed to prick my finger with this dagger (a kris technically) that she had and drip blood in a vile for her to keep she agreed to pray with me
14 years ago my eyeballs would have been ejected from my head if i had read this.

I hope you can clean this mess up faster than the 7 years+ it took me.

And no i never touched her ..
 
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I think you need to kick the demon out.

And if you are still spiritually bound to this woman, which i suspect you are, you may need to kick it out of her, and when you do that, your whole perspective will change. And so will she.

The traditional christian advice is to pray to Jesus to break the soul tie or whatever you call it.

That may work for you, it did not for me
 
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This is going to be weird and bit long, but I figure I should ask for comments. I am a protestant, Christian from 14yrs old but quickly fell off the wagon by 16 into all sorts of occultism, sex drugs and rock and roll. I’ve been single all my life as well, no children and completely wild and off the chain until about 10 years ago when I got sober and back in line with Christ. I am now 57.

I had lived a fun and exciting off the edge double life as a Data Architect and Sr. Programmer by day and high caliber illicit drug dealer at night. Life has really been a lot of fun. Too much fun probably. Money will actually buy you happiness at least for a while.

Recently I took home a female grifter less than half my age who claimed as most do, that she was “down on her luck”. Being familiar with grifters and willing to utilize the time to witness to her, before shutting her game plan down and tossing her back to the street with a lot of good helpful information in hand and an experience from me that she wouldn’t soon forget, I fed her, shared the gospel, and even prayed with her. So, we headed to my place.

This is where the odd part of the story begins… When I suggested prayer at very early hours of the next morning, she was at first reluctant, but ultimately when I agreed to prick my finger with this dagger (a kris technically) that she had and drip blood in a vile for her to keep she agreed to pray with me. A pretty simple sacrifice if you ask me. However, knowing this meant the proverbial game was afoot.

In the background of this I had a Wi-Fi phone hacking tool working on cracking her phone. You never know who you’re dealing with right? Wrong, I usually do . Anyway, we prayed for a few minutes and she interrupted it for a minute to claim she needed to go to the bathroom. Before she went, she took something from her purse. She had at least taken her phone. Being that I had a hacking tool working on it, I went and temporarily disable it to avoid detection and began reviewing her chat text.

Turns out she had recently scored about an ounce of meth, which I quickly located in her purse. I also found a Ouija board and a planchette in her backpack, which I deliberately defiled by cracking it and put it back. When she came back, we continued praying for a few minutes and a while after she became very seductive. I played along some more until I started feeling a bit of conviction and then my phone rang.

I used this as an excuse to end our little evening together and told her my girlfriend would be coming over in a little while and that I would need to take her somewhere, anywhere or all hell would break loose. She smirked and agreed that all hell would break loose most likely, but ultimately, we left and I dropped her off at a city bus stop several miles from my house (I live in a big city)

As soon as I had left her, I called the police and told them somewhat anonymously that there was a female drug dealer at such and such bus stop. I slowly made my way around the block and sure enough the police were already there and appeared to be arresting her.


This is where the problems seem to start. Once I got home, I enter my place and I heard a loud door slam. But upon investigating it was nothing, perhaps the back door was open and air pressure caused it, who knows. I went to the bathroom and while in there I began to smell something odd as if it was a recently extinguished flame. I looked all over and when I pulled back the shower curtain, I found a small plastic tray with a tiny melted down candle a few feathers and blood drops scattered around it in the shape of a pentagram. I cleaned this up fast however the grifter chic left her lipstick under my bathroom counter which my girlfriend found. It took a while but she is a true blonde and I was eventually able to convince her it was her old one from a log time ago.

Perhaps I was too quick to assume I was in control of the night’s events. Since this time, I occasionally wake up to strange sounds and voices, door slamming etc.…, I’ve had an abnormal number of flats on my car, and in the last 3 months my girlfriend and I have had several arguments and break ups. It’s like I’ve been cursed or something.

I even looked up this grifters police record and jail log for the appropriate dates and oddly no one under that name was ever arrested. I’m not sure if I need to be concerned. Also last night my girlfriend answer her phone and said “oh Hi Deanne” and quickly excused herself. No big deal, right? Wrong the grifters first name that she gave me was Deann… Im starting to think my girlfriend may be up to something bad. This is all so weird, any comments feel free.
Sounds like you need the help of a priest specialized in obliterating occult connections.
 
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Well, as for women, it is painfully obvious God hasn't created very many who knows how to be a woman. At least not in my area. If a woman decided to grift me, I would help her on her way just like I did, play along long enough to slip the noose around her neck. There are people who are going to hell, and it would appear most of them will be female. Think of it as an eye for a foot because hey we are told to love our enemies, and she already had a bad eye and it's a new covenant, right? Hookers are better companions than most women, but I'm not into hookers. So, playing with the younger generation is a good way to let off steam. This particular one seemed to have some power in her, but alas she lost. I have since explained everything to my girlfriend who totally understands again. In fact, she is willing to help me teach some of them. Sometimes i think she has Stockholm syndrome but that's another story.

Moreover, we are to treat others as we expect to be treated, and if i was going to play/use a person then I would expect that I would get the same thing back. I'm just getting ahead of the curve and bringing her closer to God by letting her fall into the pit so that i can help her out. I mean hey of you want to try some occult spell while someone is praying for you, you are literally asking for it. God is no respecter of persons, and we are to be in line with God, therefore when they prove they deserve respect they can possibly get it.

Keep in mind from Eve all the way through the lineage of Jesus to Mary were all wonton tarts who unintentionally aided God, even in their sin. Stepping back we can see Israel (the bride of Christ to some) was/is a harlot. The Old Testament is all about how God chosen people offended God so bad that he had to sacrifice his own son for everyone's atonement. Old Testament = Death, New Testament = Life. Even Solomon bemoaned the evils of women. And Lilith, don't get me started.

I love women, i just can't find any worthy of love.
It sounds that the issue isn't women. It's you
 
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Well, as for women, it is painfully obvious God hasn't created very many who knows how to be a woman. At least not in my area. If a woman decided to grift me, I would help her on her way just like I did, play along long enough to slip the noose around her neck. There are people who are going to hell, and it would appear most of them will be female. Think of it as an eye for a foot because hey we are told to love our enemies, and she already had a bad eye and it's a new covenant, right? Hookers are better companions than most women, but I'm not into hookers. So, playing with the younger generation is a good way to let off steam. This particular one seemed to have some power in her, but alas she lost. I have since explained everything to my girlfriend who totally understands again. In fact, she is willing to help me teach some of them. Sometimes i think she has Stockholm syndrome but that's another story.

Moreover, we are to treat others as we expect to be treated, and if i was going to play/use a person then I would expect that I would get the same thing back. I'm just getting ahead of the curve and bringing her closer to God by letting her fall into the pit so that i can help her out. I mean hey of you want to try some occult spell while someone is praying for you, you are literally asking for it. God is no respecter of persons, and we are to be in line with God, therefore when they prove they deserve respect they can possibly get it.

Keep in mind from Eve all the way through the lineage of Jesus to Mary were all wonton tarts who unintentionally aided God, even in their sin. Stepping back we can see Israel (the bride of Christ to some) was/is a harlot. The Old Testament is all about how God chosen people offended God so bad that he had to sacrifice his own son for everyone's atonement. Old Testament = Death, New Testament = Life. Even Solomon bemoaned the evils of women. And Lilith, don't get me started.

I love women, i just can't find any worthy of love.

It is difficult to find a Proverbs 31 kind of woman these days, isn't it? But whatever the difficulty in this may be, I don't view women as moral scourges and it's up to us men to value them and protect them as fellow human beings. Unfortunately, we men all too often fail to either value women or improve society morally and we insist women subordinate as our auxiliary tools, for whatever purposes. This shouldn't be so and isn't what the Lord has intended.

As for Mary, the mother of Jesus, I'm fairly certain that whatever sins she may have had, hers were less than mine and she was fully worthy to be chosen for her role as the mother of Jesus. I think we need to save the 'wanton' label for Jezebel instead, wherever she may be encountered, and if we do encounter her, we might offer to take her to the nearest shelter rather than bringing her home for a form of gaming.
 
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Perhaps I was too quick to assume I was in control of the night’s events. Since this time, I occasionally wake up to strange sounds and voices, door slamming etc.…, I’ve had an abnormal number of flats on my car, and in the last 3 months my girlfriend and I have had several arguments and break ups. It’s like I’ve been cursed or something.
I am wondering if you picked her up just for sport. It appears that this person has managed to place something demonic into your home. Whether she exists or not, I think you need to be praying to the Lord, asking that he forgive you because you are reaping what you have sown. Only you know your own heart and motives. Bring these things up to the Lord in prayer. :prayer:
 
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Considering your background and that of the young lady, I suggest you talk to your pastor or priest.

They may be able to recommend someone with a deliverance ministry. I'm Catholic so obviously I'm biased, but if it were me I'd talk to the parish priest.

I'd also ask him to sprinkle holy water around my house.

Time will tell if your girlfriend is up to something or not. You will need to keep your wits about you in the meantime.

A lot of people open themselves up to demonic influences if they dabble in the occult. Both you and the girl fall into this category.

Meanwhile there are some prayers you could say which may help.


I don’t know if you’re catholic or protestant, but I d advise you talk to a Christian friend you trust about your story. Go over your place and remove everything that belongs to that woman. You need to get rid of everything suspicious. Tell your girlfriend about that story. You have nothing to reproach yourself of. Is she a Christian? Pray with her. Pray about that situation and ask God to show you what to do. Repent from all your sins. Ask to be cleansed with Christ s blood.
 
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I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not trolling with this post. So, brother... I appreciate your concern for unbelievers, but you are seriously lacking discernment, among other things. I'm not saying this to discourage you in your walk with Christ, but because you need to hear it, for your own safety and the safety of others.

Right from the start, taking home a homeless woman half your age was incredibly unwise. Then you let her stab you, yes, that’s what it was, with a dagger that likely has a history of being used in occult rituals, possibly on other high-risk individuals. That moment opened the door to a literal occult ritual taking place in your bathroom, a seduction attempt, jeopardizing your relationship with your girlfriend, and a person you claim to have been witnessing to ending up arrested, because you called the police. And now you’re dealing with what sounds a lot like demonic oppression.

First thing: go get tested for blood-borne diseases. If you’re sexually active with your girlfriend, stop.
A. Because you’re not married.
B. Because she needs to be tested too if there’s been any contact.

Second, go talk to your pastor. Tell them the entire story. Then ask for guidance on how to properly share the Gospel with people in poverty or living on the streets.

As for the supposed demonic activity in your home: the Bible doesn’t teach that demons hang around and mess with your furniture or electronics. It does teach that they can oppress and possess people. There’s also nothing in Scripture that suggests humans can summon, control, or interact with spirits apart from deception and danger. You're playing with fire, and you're not immune just because you invoked Jesus' name a few times.

Your pastor can offer more specific guidance, but above all: get your mind off demons and get it on Jesus. Go to Him with repentance, confess your errors, and ask for healing and wisdom moving forward.

I know this response is stern, and it’s meant to be. I’m genuinely worried you’re going to get yourself, or someone else, hurt or even killed. What you did is a textbook example of how not to witness to someone. Your intentions might have been good, but wisdom and discernment were basically absent from the entire situation.

That said, this doesn't have to define you. Let this experience be a turning point. With patience, accountability, and perseverance, you can grow in your walk with Christ and become a faithful witness to others. Lean into your church, seek truth in Scripture, and build a solid foundation in godly wisdom.
 
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This is going to be weird and bit long, but I figure I should ask for comments. I am a protestant, Christian from 14yrs old but quickly fell off the wagon by 16 and into all sorts of occultism, sex drugs and rock and roll. I've been single all my life, no children and completely wild and off the chain until about 10 years ago when I got sober and back in line with Christ.

I had lived a fun and exciting double life as a Data Architect and Sr. Programmer by day and high caliber illicit drug dealer at night. Life has been a lot of fun. Too much fun probably. Recently I took home a female grifter who claimed to be "down on her luck". Being familiar with being kind as the Bible calls us to be, I wanted to share the Gospel with her.

This is where the odd part of the story begins… When I suggested prayer at very early hours of the next morning, she was at first reluctant, but ultimately when I agreed to prick my finger with this dagger (a kris technically) that she had and drip blood in a vile for her to keep she agreed to pray with me. A pretty simple sacrifice if you ask me. However, knowing this meant the proverbial game was afoot.

In the background of this I had a Wi-Fi phone hacking tool working on cracking her phone. You never know who you're dealing with right? Wrong, I usually do. Anyway, we prayed for a few minutes and she interrupted it for a minute to claim she needed to go to the bathroom. Before she went, she took something from her purse. She had at least taken her phone. Being that I had a hacking tool working on it, I went and temporarily disable it to avoid detection and began reviewing her chat text.

Turns out she had recently scored about an ounce of meth, which I quickly located in her purse. I also found a Ouija board and a planchette in her backpack, which I deliberately defiled by cracking it and put it back. When she came back, we continued praying for a few minutes and a while after she became very seductive. I played along some more until I started feeling a bit of conviction and then my phone rang.

I used this as an excuse to end our little evening together and told her my girlfriend would be coming over in a little while and that I would need to take her somewhere, anywhere or all hell would break loose. She smirked and agreed that all hell would break loose most likely, but ultimately, we left and I dropped her off at a city bus stop several miles from my house (I live in a big city)

As soon as I had left her, I called the police and told them somewhat anonymously that there was a female drug dealer at such and such bus stop. I slowly made my way around the block and sure enough the police were already there and appeared to be arresting her.


This is where the problems seem to start. Once I got home, I enter my place and I heard a loud door slam. But upon investigating it was nothing, perhaps the back door was open and air pressure caused it, who knows. I went to the bathroom and while in there I began to smell something odd as if it was a recently extinguished flame. I looked all over and when I pulled back the shower curtain, I found a small plastic tray with a tiny melted down candle and blood drops scattered around it in the shape of a pentagram. I cleaned this up fast however the grifter chic left her lipstick under my bathroom counter which my girlfriend found. It took a while but I was eventually able to convince her it was from a long time ago.

Since this incident, I occasionally wake up to strange sounds, like doors slamming in the night. I've had an unusual number of flat tires, and my relationship with my girlfriend has become strained. She sometimes gets phone calls from someone named "Deanne" - which happens to be the name of the grifter I picked up. I'm starting to wonder if there's something spiritual going on here. Is this just a string of coincidences or should I be concerned about something more sinister?

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Brother, I appreciate you sharing your story with such candor. I want to affirm that your return to Christ after years away is something to celebrate! The parable of the prodigal son reminds us that God rejoices when His children return home.

However, I'm deeply concerned about the spiritual risk you took. Allowing someone to collect your blood as part of any ritual is extremely problematic from a biblical perspective. Blood has profound spiritual significance throughout Scripture, and participating in such a ritual - even if you viewed it as insignificant - opened a potential spiritual doorway.

The subsequent events - finding occult paraphernalia, unexplained noises, relationship strain - align with what I've observed when studying cases of spiritual oppression. While I don't want to overstate the spiritual warfare aspect, Scripture clearly warns us not to participate in occult practices (Deuteronomy 18:10-12).

I would recommend several steps:
1. Sincere repentance for any participation in spiritual practices outside biblical boundaries
2. Prayer of renunciation specifically addressing any spiritual claims made through your blood
3. Having trusted Christian brothers come pray through your home
4. Consider speaking with your pastor about this situation

Regarding your girlfriend situation, I would counsel honesty. Deception, even with good intentions, damages trust. The fact that someone with the same name as this woman is calling your girlfriend is concerning and warrants a straightforward conversation.

Remember that Christ's authority is supreme over all spiritual forces (Colossians 2:15). While spiritual warfare is real, we don't need to live in fear when we're submitted to God.

I'll be praying for your protection and discernment, brother.
 
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Yes gaming, she was entertainment. Very clever of you.

I wasn't really attempting to be clever. Regardless, maybe just ignore her satanically laced prank she left in your bathtub. If you worry about it, that's when it begins to have power over you.
 
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I wasn't really attempting to be clever. Regardless, maybe just ignore her satanically laced prank she left in your bathtub. If you worry about it, that's when it begins to have power over you.
Monsters under the bed cant hurt you..

 
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