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I agree except it is 3.6 years of 30 day months.Sure there is 1260 days Revelation 11:3 & 42 months Revelation 13:5
These are parallel times frames consisting of 3.5 years
1260 days, 42 months, 3.5 years, all the same
If they were all the same, then why in one verse in Revelation 11:2 it says 42 months and in Revelation 11:3 the very next verse is a different time expression of 1260 days ?Sure there is 1260 days Revelation 11:3 & 42 months Revelation 13:5
These are parallel times frames consisting of 3.5 years
1260 days, 42 months, 3.5 years, all the same
It is shown to us, in that way; in order for us to know that those 3 time periods will be exactly the same after the Sixth Seal earth moving event. Isaiah 13:13If they were all the same, then why in one verse in Revelation 11:2 it says 42 months and in Revelation 11:3 the very next verse is a different time expression of 1260 days ?
If they were meant to be the same time period, then both verses in Revelation 11 would have reflected that. Such as, verse 3 would have said something like - "And my two witnesses dressed in sack cloth shall prophesy at that same time."It is shown to us, in that way; in order for us to know that those 3 time periods will be exactly the same after the Sixth Seal earth moving event. Isaiah 13:13
Our orbit will be speeded up to a 360 day year, 12 30 day months.
Is it my fault that you have a bad memory? No, it is not. I have already shown you this SEVERAL times before, so why should I have thought I needed to spell it out to you AGAIN? I should have known that you don't remember anything? Once again, I believe it is referring to this:unto messiah - for example - in your above post, you did not say what "when He was first revealed to be the Messiah" was - according to what event ? What event - Spiritual Jew? You don't communicate as well as you think.
Does the end of the 483 years not mark the end of the first 69 weeks in your view? I would think that it does. So, it does not say He will be cut off at the end of 483 years, which is the same as saying the end of the first 69 weeks. It says He will be cut off AFTER that. I have to wonder if you know exactly what I'm saying and are just pretending to not understand or what.I did not say cutoff at the end of "69 weeks", in my post #53. You are misstating what I wrote, repackaging it. I wrote "places it" (using your words) at the end of 483 years.
See, now you are proving exactly what I said. Why do you deny it? You say that He is cut off at the end of the 69 weeks rather than after it and your lame explanation for that is that an event occurring 4 days after another event is the same thing as that event occuring at the end of the other event. But, that is not true. An event occurring 4 days AFTER another event does not occur at the end of the first event. But, that is what you are trying to say and that is what I'm refuting. I think you are just pretending to not know what I'm talking about. I'll just assume that because the alternative would mean something that I won't say here.In my post #53, I was replying to a post you made - post 51. Which in that post of yours, you also included copying and pasting verse 25 - which you now say you never referred to. Yet, you included it in your post. Go look at that post for yourself.
In my post #53, I wrote "places it" (using your words) at the end of 483 years (I did not write as the end of 69 weeks) - because I was pointing out the scale of the 4 days is a very very small fraction of 483 years. 483 years x 360 days/year = 173,880 days.
I'm not twisting anything or making any false accusations. You are proving in this post that my accusations were 100% accurate. You just aren't honest enough to admit that.In my post #53, I also included my chart, for clarity. Which you say you don't look at my charts. In other words, you don't look at what I post....and choose to make false accusations over and over. My chart shows the messiah cutoff, V26, 4 days "after" the 62 weeks.
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In my post #56, I responded to your false accusation of a dishonest tactic.
In my post #56, I again reiterated that the 4 days are 4 days into the undefined gap between the 62 weeks (69 weeks total) and the 7 year 70th week. The 70th week has not begun yet.
"62 weeks unto messiah, Jesus rode into Jerusalem hailed as the messiah. That's what I show on my chart.
After 62 weeks, 4 days after, the messiah is cutoff. That is what I show on my chart."
If you choose not to look at my charts - then complain - about my view, which is on my charts - then that's on you, Spiritual Jew.
So stop with all the twisting and false accusations - and post what your view is regarding Daniel 9, the 70 weeks - that is concise and understandable - if you can.
I Disagree, the time frames you mention above are "Parallel" totaling 3.5 years, not 7 years "Chronological" as claimedfirst half
1260 days, Revelation 11:3, Revelation 12:6
second half
42 months, Revelation 11:2, Revelation 13:5
3 1/2 days, Revelation 11:9
time, times, half time, Revelation 12:14, Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7
No, that is not what I wrote. At the end of 483 years, not the end of 69 weeks. The reason you are intentionally falsely stating what I wrote is because your view can only be approached in weeks, not years, to make it seem more pausible, because you want to say the messiah is cutoff in the middle of the 70th week.You say that He is cut off at the end of the 69 weeks rather than after it
John was in the wilderness, the Jordan river, not Jerusalem. The prophecy in Daniel 9:25 is to take place in Jerusalem, as that is what the 70 weeks are appointed to in Daniel 9:24 in the text. The center of activity for the prophecies in Daniel 9:24 is Jerusalem.John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’ 31 I myself did not know him, but the reason I came baptizing with water was that he might be revealed to Israel.” 32 Then John gave this testimony: “I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him. 33 And I myself did not know him, but the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is the one who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’ 34 I have seen and I testify that this is God’s Chosen One.”
The 30 days is God`s consistent measurement, whereas the Lunar and the Solar are of different days in the month. Thus we can put God`s measurement on any calendar and get the right time.It is shown to us, in that way; in order for us to know that those 3 time periods will be exactly the same after the Sixth Seal earth moving event. Isaiah 13:13
Our orbit will be speeded up to a 360 day year, 12 30 day months.
God is revealing to us the whole time and then the individual parts which are of 30 day months. The Lunar and Dolar calendars have varying days but we can put God`s time on any and get the right time.If they were all the same, then why in one verse in Revelation 11:2 it says 42 months and in Revelation 11:3 the very next verse is a different time expression of 1260 days ?
Hi Marilyn,God is revealing to us the whole time and then the individual parts which are of 30 day months. The Lunar and Dolar calendars have varying days but we can put God`s time on any and get the right time.
I believe they are equivalent - 1,260 days of 30 day months equals 42 months and 3 years and a half. God is revealing His measurement - 30 days.Hi Marilyn,
This is why (the 1260 days) and (the 42 months) and (the time/times/half time) are not exact equivalents of each other...
Because of the 3 1/2 days that the two witnesses lay dead in the streets. And the war in the 2nd heaven time.
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Hi Marilyn,I believe they are equivalent - 1,260 days of 30 day months equals 42 months and 3 years and a half. God is revealing His measurement - 30 days.
The 2 witnesses toward the end part (last 75 days) of their 1260 days time are in the great tribulation.... because the little horn person will have evolved into the beast, and the great tribulation begins when a statue image of the beast is placed on the temple mount.The 2 witnesses are in the great trib, for that is when the A/C has the power to kill them eventually. The A/C is not a world leader in the first part of the trib. He only rule for 42 months, 1,260 days, 3 1/2 years, (which I see in your diagram.)
Your claims are "False"After the two witnesses are brought back to life and ascend to heaven - on day 1263.5, the beast will have 42 months (a nominal expression) to reign without the two witnesses around to impede him.
Verse 14 indicates that the third woe comes quickly. There is no third woe between the lines of verses 14-15.Your claims are "False"
From the time the (Two Witnesses) are raised to heaven, it's "Minutes" until the 7th Trump blows in (The End) as the Lord reigns forever!
Revelation 11:11-15KJV
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Your claim is "False"When the seventh angel sounds, it begins the process which God takes the kingdoms of this world out from under Satan's grip over the nations.
"time no longer" is an expression to mean, no more delay. In the "days" of the voice of the seventh angel - i.e. the time/times/half time period, the mystery of God should be finished. The mystery of God is the ending of Satan and his angels grip over the nations, the destruction of their mystical kingdom of Babylon the Great, and the bringing of the Kingdom of God and His Christ to become the ruling kingdom over the nations of the earth.Your claim is "False"
When the 7th Trump/Angel sounds its (The End) time no longer, the mystery of God is finished
Revelation 10:5-7KJV
5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
LOL. What is the difference? Do you not believe that each week represents 7 years? That means 69 weeks represents 483 years.No, that is not what I wrote. At the end othf 483 years, not the end of 69 weeks.
I'm not intentionally falsely stating anything. That is a lie. Excuse me for thinking that 69 weeks is the same as 483 years. Which is true if you understand each week to represent 7 years.The reason you are intentionally falsely stating what I wrote is because your view can only be approached in weeks, not years, to make it seem more pausible, because you want to say the messiah is cutoff in the middle of the 70th week.
Whatever. The fact of the matter is that Jesus was cut off AFTER the first 69 weeks, comprising 483 years, ended. Are you trying to get around that?A week sounds like a brief amount of time, but 7 years does not, and is the reality of the matter.
That is correct. My view does not acknowledge that falsehood.And your view does not acknowledge that unto messiah was when Jesus rode into Jerusalem riding a donkey.
It indicates that the Messiah, who we know is Jesus, would be cut off after the first 483 years of the 490 year prophecy ended. And the prophecy itself does not specify how long after that He would be cut off. We all determine that using other scripture.Can you express your view in terms of years ?
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