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If everything, even the earth is made of stardust what is your objection about?
A question for you.
What authority do you believe, do you believe the bible or do you believe what men say?
Your choice is to believe the bible is true or it is not true. To b elieve in creation or in evolution, it is your choice and no there is no middle ground.
more or less. Are you familiar with Luther's Small Catechism? And the Nicene and Apostle's Creeds?Meaning I, (we) don’t have to believe all the LCMS teaches as long as I (we) believe Jesus is the Son of God and my Savior?
to be fair, that's kind of his job. I'm sure he's glad to help you understand and sit down with you to talk about these things. That being said, I do get your concern as I felt the same way when I was becoming Orthodox and pestering my priest with questionsI think he’s getting tired of having to answer all of my questions.
Yes, it matters because it goes against LCMS teaching.
The idea that the Genesis account is a scientific, literal, and a historical narration, is an interpretation applied to the text. A specific way of reading the text.I’ve learned that the LCMS believes in a young earth and no evolution. That has been bothering me but now today, I was watching a news program online from the Answers in Genesis website. They said something about humans not being made out of stardust but every single thing I’ve read about this online today says that humans, all of life and even the earth is made from stardust. I assume Lutherans don’t believe this. How do you all remain LCMS when so much of what is scientifically taught goes against church teaching?
It is probably better not to apply an interpretation to the text.
The Genesis text is not useless at all. The Genesis text is a theological narration and has nothing to do with any scientific perspective.That would make the text useless. The LCMS does have an exegetical approach.
The Genesis text is not useless at all. The Genesis text is a theological narration and has nothing to do with any scientific perspective.
The Genesis text lays the foundation for the nation of Israel. Your looking at a simple narration that really focuses on Abraham, the father of the Jewish nation.
If you lean on the Genesis text at any point you are probably over stretching the very fabric of this ancient text. And ultimately degenerating the real purpose of the Genesis text.
To look at Genesis with a modern scientific mindset is an alarming method of interpretation. One that I would most strongly advise against.
Yo that I might add...
In post 2 I said...To make things worse if man evolved and Genesis is wrong... then there was no Adam, Eve....no Garden, no Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, no serpent, no deception, no fall....basically no need for Jesus'.
How would one get around this
Scientific models only represent a superficial interpretation of universe.Anything you take away from Genesis is an interpretation of the text. I'm not advocating for a "scientific" interpretation, nor do I think that's possible for the most part. But scientific models do have philosophical implications that impinge on Genesis.
Scientific models only represent a superficial interpretation of universe.
So when I read Genesis I read it gently and the way that it was written. A simple text for a simple audience.
more or less. Are you familiar with Luther's Small Catechism? And the Nicene and Apostle's Creeds?
to be fair, that's kind of his job. I'm sure he's glad to help you understand and sit down with you to talk about these things. That being said, I do get your concern as I felt the same way when I was becoming Orthodox and pestering my priest with questions
The creeds as well as Luther’s catechism are pretty much the essentials/fundamentals when it comes to the LCMS - here’s the catechism, it’s pretty short and worth a read in my opinion. Luther’s Small Catechism by Dr. Martin LutherYes, I’m familiar with the Creeds, but I haven’t read the Lutheran Catechism.
I just want to be sure that according to the LCMS
I shouldn’t be bothered by this evolution, age of the earth and stardust stuff as long as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior? Or am I wrong?
The creeds as well as Luther’s catechism are pretty much the essentials/fundamentals when it comes to the LCMS - here’s the catechism, it’s pretty short and worth a read in my opinion. Luther’s Small Catechism by Dr. Martin Luther
And yep that’s pretty much correct, as far as I understand it (again with the caveat that although I grew up LCMS, I am no longer, and I don’t speak officially for them). You can be LCMS and believe those other things too
Yes, I’m familiar with the Creeds, but I haven’t read the Lutheran Catechism.
I just want to be sure that according to the LCMS
I shouldn’t be bothered by this evolution, age of the earth and stardust stuff as long as I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior? Or am I wrong?
Anybody currently LCMS want to answer?
Anybody currently LCMS who’d care to answer?
I am LCMS, and that is correct. You don't have to take a side regarding evolution. The important thing is your faith in Christ. If you want to discuss it more, let me know.
Yo that I might add...
In post 2 I said...To make things worse if man evolved and Genesis is wrong... then there was no Adam, Eve....no Garden, no Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, no serpent, no deception, no fall....basically no need for Jesus'.
How would one get around this
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