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Where is it stated that the apostles wrote down everything necessary for salvation?I started by saying we all agree the apostles spoke and then wrote it down.
Paul spoke to them. They checked the OT.
Since then, people speak. We check the OT and NT.
You'll have to make the case that the apostles didn't write everything down as necessary for salvation, even though it is written that they did.
I stand corrected, thank you.
Nevertheless, Paul had testimony that they all received the Holy Spirit, what need is there to add further burden on them.
Scriptural evidence that the Bereans came to their own conclusion that circumcision was not necessary?You got 1 right
Scriptural evidence that the Bereans came to their own conclusion that circumcision was not necessary?
Where is it stated that the apostles wrote down everything necessary for salvation?
I'm just making the case that the Bereans can't be used as a poster child for sola-scriptura. They accepted Paul's oral testimony to the person of Jesus Christ outside of the bounds of their Scripture.
That's all.
There's a falsehood here 'if a bishop speaks we check scripture'
Firslty however it's illogical because the church existed between the Apostles deaths and the formation of the bible
Not when you stop to consider that the OT scriptures and many of the NT epistiles were already in circulation long before the Bible was compiled.
From what I can tell (you can correct me if I'm wrong), you are asserting that the OT Scriptures that the Bereans had were sufficient to find salvation in Jesus Christ independent of the testimony of Paul to the person of Jesus. True or not?
Sola-scriptura professes that the Scriptures are sufficient -- contain all that is necessary to know of salvation. Nothing additional is needed.
Or another way to view this....
How did the Bereans know the person Jesus Christ was born of a virgin?
How did the Bereans know the person Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem?
How did the Bereans know the person Jesus Christ did not see decay?
Etc.
The OT merely point to a person who would come.
They do not identify Jesus of Nazareth as that person. The Bereans accept from oral tradition (Paul) that Jesus of Nazareth was
1)born of a virgin
2) born in Bethlehem
3) did not see decay.
Which promptly removes them fromt he world of sola-scriptura and squarely into the world of scripture AND tradition.
No.No, that doesn't even make sense. Somehow they had to hear news of the Nazarene. From there, yes OT carries the day. What made the Bereans more noble was that they searched the Scriptures, to see whether the claims being made were relevant.
This is what California Josiah went to great lengths to spell out as norma normans, or some such. (As long as it wasn't Cliff Clayburn)
Actually it's Peter who has the direct revelation from God regarding in the form of a vision regarding the Gentiles. It is his testimony that sways James from his insistence of requiring circumcision in Acts 15 -- Paul doesn't get anywhere with him.
Did the Bereans understand from OT scripture that circumcision was no longer valid?
Not when you stop to consider that the OT scriptures and many of the NT epistiles were already in circulation long before the Bible was compiled.
Check out the Protestants arguing against Mary being Ever-Virgin.
If I might refine SUP's answer a tad, I would say that what's recorded in Scripture shows that it's most likely that some people got this point while others didn't.
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