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You didn't answer Narnia's question. How did the Bereans know from the OT Scriptures alone (which is all that they had) that Jesus Christ was the person that the OT talked about? If it is so obvious, it should be easy to lay out for her.
First of all, it wasn't all they had, per se. It was all they had to verify Paul's good news (the gospel). It is only obvious to those who are saved. It is foolishness to those who are perishing.How did the Bereans know from the OT Scriptures alone (which is all that they had) that Jesus Christ was the person that the OT talked about? If it is so obvious, it should be easy to lay out for her.
Sounds like you found it obvious too.That would be the scriptures of the Old Testament that pointed to Jesus.
From reading the rather cryptic responses, evidently it's not that easy at all.You didn't answer Narnia's question. How did the Bereans know from the OT Scriptures alone (which is all that they had) that Jesus Christ was the person that the OT talked about? If it is so obvious, it should be easy to lay out for her.
You didn't answer Narnia's question. How did the Bereans know from the OT Scriptures alone (which is all that they had) that Jesus Christ was the person that the OT talked about? If it is so obvious, it should be easy to lay out for her.
From reading the rather cryptic responses, evidently it's not that easy at all.
The Jews as a whole had the same scripture (OT) as Paul was using, and they didn't see Paul's message.
What subject? The road to Emmaus? Sola-scriptura? I'm familiar with them. It is simply your responses to my question that I find less than direct and cryptic.I wouldn't say that the road to Emmaus is cryptic, but I wouldn't say that this answer is easy, either. One could spend years in study and still come up close to empty, I imagine. I'm just saddened that for all the wonderful teaching on the Gospels themselves that RC has, this is apparently an entire area you overlook.(?) I've been impressed that you actually know Him, and I'm just shocked that this subject is foreign to you; that makes it difficult to know where to begin.
Let's all agree on this. The apostles did speak first and then wrote it down.
Narnia already laid out some prophecies of Messiah that the apostles relayed as fulfilled (born in Bethlehem, of a virgin).
There are many more. Peter and others used 'won't let Your Holy One see decay' as proof of the resurrection.
So, along come eyewitnesses who claim Jesus Christ of Nazareth fulfilled all the prophecies. THe Bereans went to the OT and searched to see if indeed what was claimed was prophesied and fulfilled. As Rick pointed out, some verified, some believed. To the others it was foolishness.
So were the Bereans sola-scripturists in your view?
Yes, in the sense of confirming what was being claimed. They searched OT scripture. What'd you have in mind?
Searching the scriptures affirming that what somebody says is in scripture is in fact there is not sola-scriptura.
Sola-scriptura professes that the Scriptures are sufficient -- contain all that is necessary to know of salvation. Nothing additional is needed.
That would mean that if the Bereans were sola-scriptura the OT scriptures were all that were necessary for their salvation, and nothing Paul has to say about the person of Jesus Christ adds anything essential.
There was none in that post. At best you're suggesting that the post itself is a repeat of a previous idea, which isn't a tautology itself.Tautology
Yes, I realize the OT's prophesied of the Messiah.Not sure what you're saying. The OT prophesied of Messiah. Emmanuel. Along comes Paul saying the OT is fulfilled in Christ Jesus. The Bereans, like many others, were anticipating its fulfillment. But they also wanted to check. How? It is written.
Born of a virgin - yes.
In Bethlehem - yes.
Didn't see decay - yes.
Etc.
So, not sure your point. You may be confusing me with others. You realize the OT prophesied of Messiah, right?
Not sure what you're saying. The OT prophesied of Messiah. Emmanuel. Along comes Paul saying the OT is fulfilled in Christ Jesus. The Bereans, like many others, were anticipating its fulfillment. But they also wanted to check. How? It is written.
Born of a virgin - yes.
In Bethlehem - yes.
Didn't see decay - yes.
Etc.
So, not sure your point. You may be confusing me with others. You realize the OT prophesied of Messiah, right?
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