no. I have evidence he is. Not proof.
Evidence, such as
1) the stigmata are foolishly placed in the wrong spot. Evidence exists that the nails in the hands actually went through the wrist area. Fraudulent stigmatics copy artistic renderings, not reality.
I hear a lot of people say this, but - I saw a little youtube documentary once where a doctor who was examining the Shroud said that the nails were actually somewhere in between the hand and the wrist... but the more important point is that stigmata exists for a different reason.. it doesn't matter that much how it was "historically", the point of stigmata is to fully understand and experience Christ's Passion.. the stigmatics wanted to share in His pain.. that is the purpose
so it doesn't matter.
2) False humility statments such as "I want to suffer in secret" but not missing the photo ops, or the fan club.
how do you know if someone has real humility of false humility? that sounds like an awfully judgemental comment, sorry..
3) the secret purchases of carbolic acid.
that's just somebody's theory.
On
September 20,
1918, while hearing confessions, Padre Pio is said to have had his first occurrence of
stigmatabodily marks, pain, and bleeding in locations corresponding to the
crucifixion wounds of
Jesus Christ. This phenomenon allegedly continued for fifty years, until the end of his life. The blood flowing from the stigmata is said to have smelled of perfume or flowers, a phenomenon mentioned in stories of the lives of several
saints and often referred to as the
odour of sanctity.
His stigmata, regarded by some as evidence of holiness, was studied by physicians whose independence from the Church is not known.
[18][19] The observations were reportedly unexplainable and the wounds never infected.
[18][19] It was reputed, however, that his condition caused him great embarrassment, and most photographs show him with red mittens or black coverings on his hands and feet where the bleedings occurred.
[19]
At Padre Pio's death in 1968, his body appeared unwounded, with no sign of scarring. There was even a report that doctors who examined his body found it empty of all blood.
[29] Photos taken of his bare feet and hands during his funeral procession created some scandal with allegations of stigmata fraud, although believers saw the disappearance of the marks as yet another miracle.
Historian Sergio Luzzatto and others, both religious and non-religious, have accused Padre Pio of faking his stigmata. Luzzatto's theory, namely that Padre Pio used
carbolic acid to self-inflict the wounds, is based on a document found in the Vatican's archive the testimony of a pharmacist at the San Giovanni Rotondo, Maria De Vito, from whom he ordered 4 grams of the acid.
[30] According to De Vito, Padre Pio asked her to keep the order secret, saying it was to sterilise needles. The document was examined but dismissed by the Catholic Church during Padre Pio's
beatification process.
[30]
One commentator expressed the belief that the Church likely dismissed the claims based on alleged evidence that the acid was in fact used for sterilization: "The boys had needed injections to fight the Spanish Flu which was raging at that time. Due to a shortage of doctors, Padres Paolino and Pio administered the shots, using carbolic acid as a sterilizing agent.
[31][30]
http://www.apostles.com/carbolicacid.html
4) various pictures of the "wounds" show different locations if critically examined.
5) The exhumation to prove sainthood was hilarious. conducted in secret, hidden away for many weeks "to prepare the body." If the body was in near pristene condition as claimed, they should have been able to dump the body on a bier right out of the grave. No such luck. They had to bring in the touch up artists.
6) the number of frauds and fakeries regarding stigmata/incorruptibles cast immediate doubt on others (unless of course, you're willing to just believe what you're told without critical thought.
there is more, but I've already wasted enough time on the above, I know you don't believe an Iota of it.
I've read all this before.. on websites..lol.. but yea I don't believe them cause there's far greater evidence IN SUPPORT of St Padre Pio.
Also, he did intercede for me about something.
I don't remember claiming any such thing. It's the stigmata etc.. that was fraudulent.
funny... you question if I know who is in heaven or not, as if it's something that can't be known (and it really can't, for the practical mindset... yet your CHURCHs says by big s sainting him that they know for sure that HE is.)
that's because in order for someone to be declared a Saint in the Catholicd Church, there need to be miracles attributed to their intercession in Heaven. So it proves that they're in fact in Heaven. And the miracles are examined in great detail.. if it's a healing, it has to be instantaneous, without medical help, and permanent.
