I'd have to say that I was very disappointed this week at the movies. I'd say if you're not under 12 years of age, you could probably skip "Spongebob Squarepants The Movie" I like the cartoon. The movie wasn't as funny as the cartoon on t.v....Most of the good jokes were played over and over in the previews. As for Alexander, I did not enjoy it, as it was rather dry and boring. Even the action scenes become humdrum, as there are a number of battles of the same thing over and over again. Very disappointing week at the movies. Should be better in a couple of weeks though, with the impending release of Ocean's Twelve!!!
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Spongebob and Alexander
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Alexander was reportedly in a relationship with another man most of his life, but he also had a wife who was more than just a political tie. They cut allot of the homosexual scenes out of it, but it still could have been such a better movie regardless of anyones personal feelings on homosexuality.
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Many historians agree that Alexander was indeed bisexual. He was in love with his best friend, Hephastion. He just married Roxanne so that she could provide him with an heir.twistedsketch said:
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funyun
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I was dissapointed with Alexander. It could have been a really great movie. I thought the locations were great, the acting was on the whole pretty good (Val Kilmer I thought was the best), and I thought the Alexander-Philip-Olympias conflict was well done in order to give a more human aspect to the story and show why Alexander was the way he was. The battle scenes, especially the one at Gaugamela, I thought were great, too.
But I thought a whole lot of the story was skipped over. No Issus, no Tyre, no Egypt. I think it would have been better if Stone had made the movie longer and cut it in half, like Quentin Tarentino did with Kill Bill. That, plus a lot of the dialogue, especially between Hephaistion and Alexander was really bad. I mean, the homosexualness of it wasn't what made me uncomfortable, but the cheesy lines did.
But I thought a whole lot of the story was skipped over. No Issus, no Tyre, no Egypt. I think it would have been better if Stone had made the movie longer and cut it in half, like Quentin Tarentino did with Kill Bill. That, plus a lot of the dialogue, especially between Hephaistion and Alexander was really bad. I mean, the homosexualness of it wasn't what made me uncomfortable, but the cheesy lines did.
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Alexander was not very good. As well as being a homosexual propaganda film, the battle at Gaugamela was better on this Discovery Channel program I watched on Alexander's military genius (which was unapparent in the film, IMO). Although, I did think there were several scenes scattered throughout the movie which, when combined with excellent music, were very moving (the ending Indian battle scene where Alexander gets shot).
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It's not a homosexual propoganda film, it justs shows the reality of Alexander and who he was. He was bisexual. You have to accept that, but it doesn't preach that homosexual lifestyle is positive. Still, the movie was a mess. The accents for each of the actors was off, there was too much narration, and it seemed like there was no real focus for the film. Quite disappointing.
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funyun
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Subordinationist said:
How was there propaganda? It's pretty well known historically that Alexander was at elast bicurious with Hephaistion, if not outright bisexual or homosexual. Yes, the eunuch dancing in India was a bit over the top, but I would have been more dissapointed if the entire issue was skirted over completely.
Anyway, I thought Gaugamela was a great scene, because Stone shot it differently than most directors would have. Case in point: Troy, which I wasn't impressed with as far as the large-scale battles went.
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historically or not, they could have simply implied that alexander was gay or bi, yet not too much. it disgusts me when movies adress that topic.
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Personally, I laughed the hardest during The Spongebob movie when Patrick had on high heals and fishnet stockings. 
Did that make him gay, or bisexual, or... who cares?
Seriously, I like Spongebob but the movie wasn't as good as the TV show.
Did that make him gay, or bisexual, or... who cares? Seriously, I like Spongebob but the movie wasn't as good as the TV show.
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Well it does more justice to Alexander the Great to portray him as accurately as possible, and yes if that means you must include his bisexuality. It'd be an insult to not at least address this. Would people like Jesus' history to be messed around with? I doubt it. Bisexuality is reality and people must accept that it was practiced back then as well as now. Shoving it under the carpet isn't going to make it go away.
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It doesn't have to. To be a first-wave (later on Hollywood will have second and third-wave prograganda films where they explicitly show homosexuality is okay) propaganda film, you must show something that is not normal and or popular as if it is normal and popular. Your forgeting the scene where they rape the young man at the "party" of King Philip. Or the scene where Alexander's main Macedonian men edge him on to kiss the male dancer. Or the totally unnecessary scene with Alexander getting in bed and welcoming his new male friend in with him (this had absolutely nothing to do with the plot). The relationship between Hephaistion and Alexander was very loving and friendly but there is never a sexual scene. It would be more accurate to history if they had a sensual scene between Hephaistion and Alex.
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That's how it is when an animated TV show jumps into the big screen. They're funny on TV, but stretch out a 30-minute cartoon into one-and-a-half hours, and it's not quite the same; Beavis and Butt-Head Do America and South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut come to mind.dpshannon said:
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Yeah... i saw sponge bob... i really didn't enjoy the movie... something about David Hasslehoff scares the living poo out of me... the movie scared me too...patrick crossdresses...which for an idiot i can understand...but no...it was wrong..i think the movie's better for little children..who have no clue who David Hasselhoff *or however you spell it* is
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