Spilled Honey

[Christsfreeservant]

Help! Does anyone on here know the connection between honey and the polination process of honey bees?

I had a dream this morning about spilled honey and as I prayed about it, the Lord led me to sense that it was somehow connected with human sperm. So, I've been researching the polination process but I'm sick with a really bad head cold and cough so I'm like brain dead.

Any help would be appreciated on what honey has to do with this process:

Honey: a sweet sticky golden-brown fluid produced by bees from the nectar of flowers.

sperm: the thick white fluid containing sperm that a male [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse].

Honey Bee, common name for any of several species of highly social bees known for their honey-hoarding behavior and their use as a domesticated species (see Beekeeping). The European honey bee is important in modern agriculture and in nature, providing pollination for many valuable crops and wild plants. It is native to Asia and the Middle East and was introduced to North America by early European colonists. By the mid-1800s honey bees had become widespread. Today, they are naturalized on every continent except Antarctica. Honey bees can be easily reared, are adaptable to many climates and to laboratory conditions, and have a complex social life. They are among the most studied and best known insects.​

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Pollination, transfer of pollen grains from the male structure of a plant to the female structure of a plant. The pollen grains contain cells that will develop into male sex cells, or sperm. The female structure of a plant contains the female sex cells, or eggs. Pollination prepares the plant for fertilization, the union of the male and female sex cells. Virtually all grains, fruits, vegetables, wildflowers, and trees must be pollinated and fertilized to produce seed or fruit, and pollination is vital for the production of critically important agricultural crops, including corn, wheat, rice, apples, oranges, tomatoes, and squash.​

 

[Christsfreeservant]

Oh, the honey was spilled in a cupboard, so any ideas on what the cupboard might represent?

 

[Christsfreeservant]

Please could someone be my brain for me this evening? I think I might have the flu but my brain won't stop running it just isn't connecting all the circuits - you know how it is when you are sick. I can last here about a few minutes and that is it.

My main question is "Can honey be equated to human sperm?"

In the dream my middle son spilled the honey in the cupboard. In real life this son had surgery five years ago so that he could not have more children. "Could the honey being spilled in the cupboard be equated with that type of surgery?" is my real question. Does anyone know? In sports a man will use a "cup" to protect his private parts. So, could the cupboard be a symbol of this protection?

Any help about how honey plays in to the role of pollination would be most helpful. Thanks! I did horrible in science in school.

 

[WarfareChampion]

when it comes to dreams its best that we God to the Bibles interpretation of honey.honey always speaks of somthing good ie a land that flows with milk and honey or when i think jonathan king saul son tasted of the honey and his eyes were enlightened.

in the word of God honey is never represented as male sperm, male sperm is always called seed. a cupboard is the place where things are stored . well the honey (somthing good/revelation/) or somthing that a child of God would find sweet has been poured in to your store cupboard to be realest into your life from God at the appointed time


i could be wrong but the dream sounds like a blessing

 

[Bobinator]

You may want to share the dream in its entirety. At this point, there may not be enough information to comment. Thanx.

 

[Christsfreeservant]

You may want to share the dream in its entirety. At this point, there may not be enough information to comment. Thanx.

Thanks! I actually shared it in its entirety on another thread "Simulated Dating" because the part about the honey in the cupboard and the part about the simulated dating are from the same dream.

I'm still praying this through. I'm sick with the flu so that is not helping my progress, but God knows that. He allowed me to be sick while he gave me this dream (and the one from today, too, which I'm also praying over).

I know the dream is based off of Daniel 5, The Writing on the Wall. The one from this morning is quite clear that it is based off of Daniel 6 about Daniel in the Lion's Den.

If you want to read it in its entirety on that thread, "Simulated Dating" and make your comments there, that would be great! That would be better, I think, than repeating the dream here again.

I started two threads, because I was trying to get assistance with two different dream sections that covered subjects that were not the same as each other, but if I had my brain attached it probably would have been better to keep them all in one thread. Sorry for any confusion.

 

[Christsfreeservant]

when it comes to dreams its best that we God to the Bibles interpretation of honey.honey always speaks of somthing good ie a land that flows with milk and honey or when i think jonathan king saul son tasted of the honey and his eyes were enlightened.

in the word of God honey is never represented as male sperm, male sperm is always called seed. a cupboard is the place where things are stored . well the honey (somthing good/revelation/) or somthing that a child of God would find sweet has been poured in to your store cupboard to be realest into your life from God at the appointed time


i could be wrong but the dream sounds like a blessing

Thank you for those thoughts. They are good thoughts. The dream in its entirety is posted under the thread "Simulated Dating." There was a section in it about simulated dating and so I had questions about that and then there was another section about this honey so I asked about that. This is only the portion about the honey:

Then there were some neighbor children at our house and I think we were feeding them maybe PB & honey sandwiches, but not sure. Then my son John spilled honey in the cupboard and it was dripping down onto everything. I asked him to clean it up, but he didn’t.

I have to say that my dreams of late have been about secrets in our federal government and I'm not usually playing myself nor are my family members playing themselves. The passage of scripture is from Daniel 6 about the handwriting on the wall, so I don't think the dream is about a blessing. It is possible that the "cupboard" could be equated to the president's cabinet, but I'm still researching and praying at this point.

I do believe the Lord has led me to research bees and honey, but I'm still praying over that, too.

If you want to read the dream in its entirety on "Simulated Dating" and then see if you still think it is about a blessing, then let me know, ok? I'm still considering the options at this point. I know the Lord will give me the interpretation in his timing but he often leads me to do research of things I don't know about such as about bees.

 

[Christsfreeservant]

If anyone knows about how honeybees work, then maybe you could answer this question. I'm thinking that perhaps the cupboard could be equated to the honeycomb, but not sure. I know we took honey from the cupboard and fed it to the children but then my son spilled the honey in the cupboard and I asked him to clean it up, but he didn't. So, I'm thinking what he did was a bad thing because then the honey could not be used to feed the children since it was spilled.

So, the honey could be like the land of milk and honey and if so, then what would it mean to spill it inside the cabinet so that it could no longer be used to feed the children? I'm still thinking this has to do with our government and that they are perhaps hoarding the wealth and not sharing it with the children, but then what would it mean to spill it?

If it is a honeycomb, then what would it mean to spill it? The honey is used to feed the larva in the honeycomb. But then it is still not useful to be used outside the honeycomb to feed the children. So I'm thinking it has to do with our government being self-serving in some way, but I'm still praying this through.

 

[Christsfreeservant]

You may want to share the dream in its entirety. At this point, there may not be enough information to comment. Thanx.

This is the link to the entire dream. It is post #2:

http://christianforums.com/t7004142-simulated-dating.html#post44558006

 

[Christsfreeservant]

This is interesting. I went to my local news webpage and saw this article:

http://www.heraldonline.com/wire/weird/story/425405.html

Honey drips out of Calif. family's walls
· The Associated Press
Updated 03/12/08 - 10:50 PM

I don't know if it has anything to do with this dream but it may. It certainly is an interesting story.

 

[heron]

the honey (somthing good/revelation/)

Honey also has antibiotic properties (fending off invaders), and can carry botulism -- why toddlers aren't supposed to eat it.

What does a trillion dollars look like?

This is an article on the US gov spending ...

"The cost of buying and operating a new fleet of jet fighters for the U.S. military is nearing $1 trillion, according to a congressional audit that found the program dogged by delays, manufacturing inefficiencies and price increases."

Honey is a luxury, which used to have limited supply... now that we mass produce and mass distribute, we don't think about how precious it is to find one honeycomb.

"When inflation is accounted for, between 1940 and 1996 the United States has spent about six trillion (1996) dollars on Nuclear weapons."

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Honey is a food product. The bees draw the sugars from the flowers, which is very close to honey (taste a honeysuckle flower) and convert it to a consistent form of food for the newbies.

From Wiki:
" In the hive the bees use their "honey stomachs" to ingest and regurgitate the nectar a number of times until it is partially digested. It is then stored in the honeycomb.
(Cupboard .)

Nectar is high in both water content and natural yeasts which, unchecked, would cause the sugars in the nectar to ferment. .After the final regurgitation, the honeycomb is left unsealed.

Bees inside the hive fan their wings, creating a strong draft across the honeycomb which enhances evaporation of much of the water from the nectar. The reduction in water content, which raises the sugar concentration, prevents fermentation."

 

[Christsfreeservant]

Thanks! I will give your thoughts more response later when I have time - short on time at the moment.

I just read this in the news this morning - think it has to do with "spilling the honey in the cupboard":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/13/AR2008031302841_pf.html

 

[heron]

I just read this in the news this morning

You know, a lot of scandals and financial controversies are surfacing this week -- I wonder if the honey being in the cupboard is the shared partaking of a whole family. Cumulative incidents or decisions.

Your son is someone you are protective of, but also was one of the users of the cupboard. You have less oversight than you used to.

Sometimes when I pray that justice will be upheld and that more corruption will continue to surface, I get a nervous feeling that it will, and I won't want to hear how much of it there is!

Things that make me think of a pot of honey --

1. The gold treasury, or USD system of backing (which used to be gold-backed)

2. The GDP gross domestic product, the total market value of all final goods and services produced within a given country in a given period of time (usually a calendar year).

3. A department or concept that has done very well so far, but is expendable and sometimes must be protector or sheltered.


The US dollar has had a rough time lately -- spilling it is one of the worries discussed these days.

 

[Christsfreeservant]

Ok, heron, I just went back and reread your comments. Yes, I do believe it has to do with treasures, finances, food - all the things we need for survival - feel the "honeycomb" represents the government who is wasting (spilling) the treasures (see Daniel 5) and/or hoarding for themselves at the cost of the American people and that is the reason our economy is going down hill right now.

 

[Christsfreeservant]

You know, a lot of scandals and financial controversies are surfacing this week -- I wonder if the honey being in the cupboard is the shared partaking of a whole family. Cumulative incidents or decisions.

Your son is someone you are protective of, but also was one of the users of the cupboard. You have less oversight than you used to.

Sometimes when I pray that justice will be upheld and that more corruption will continue to surface, I get a nervous feeling that it will, and I won't want to hear how much of it there is!

Things that make me think of a pot of honey --

1. The gold treasury, or USD system of backing (which used to be gold-backed)

2. The GDP gross domestic product, the total market value of all final goods and services produced within a given country in a given period of time (usually a calendar year).

3. A department or concept that has done very well so far, but is expendable and sometimes must be protector or sheltered.


The US dollar has had a rough time lately -- spilling it is one of the worries discussed these days.

Good thoughts! I think you are right on target here. I will comment more on them later... need to run, sorry.

 

[heron]

hoarding for themselves

It just hit me how honey is a hoarding thing -- where sugar is dried for distribution, bees store honey and seal it up. A cupboard is usually closed, and you (figuratively) were upset that he spilled it ... government spending fits well in here. I was thinking almost the reverse, of the US cache of supply, but this could also mean an isolated cash cow network that was uncovered.

need to run, sorry.

You're have given up calling yourself sick and inactive, huh. That came quite soon after being feverish! None of my business, lol, but you'd better schedule some rest into your catch-up day.

 

[Christsfreeservant]

It just hit me how honey is a hoarding thing -- where sugar is dried for distribution, bees store honey and seal it up. A cupboard is usually closed, and you (figuratively) were upset that he spilled it ... government spending fits well in here. I was thinking almost the reverse, of the US cache of supply, but this could also mean an isolated cash cow network that was uncovered.


You're have given up calling yourself sick and inactive, huh. That came quite soon after being feverish! None of my business, lol, but you'd better schedule some rest into your catch-up day.

Yes, this was my first day "out" in a week. I'm actually feeling "normal" (hahaha) again. I just had lunch with one of my 3 daughters-in-law and granddaughter who are moving in two weeks. Boy, am I going to miss them terribly!! They will only be 3 hours away for now. When our son gets home from Afghanistan, then we'll see where they go from there. He is hoping to get a recruiting position stateside so he does not have to be deployed again. This was his second deployment with only 9 months home in between. They've only been married a little over 3 years and have spent more time apart than together and they have a child now, too.

Yes, mom, I'll try to get some rest today, too!

Ok, as I said previously, economics is way out there for me, so please explain what you mean by "cash cow network that was uncovered".

Let me explain one more thing that may or may not work with this scenario. I'm wondering why the Lord chose to use this son other than he has a bunch of kids. I'm thinking it may have to do with the surgery he had five years ago to not have more kids. His "honey" then would be hoarded and not shared and would impact production or reproduction. Honeybees are needed to pollinate plants and vegetables and stuff, right? If they failed to produce the sperm necessary to pollinate the plants then that would impact plant growth, right? Obviously farming is not my forte, either. I just feel this is connected somehow. Basically his sperm is spilled in the cupboard and is being hoarded, isn't it? So, it can't be shared with the kids (eggs). I may be way off here - if so, just tell me.

Oh, one more thing. I had this dream when I was sick so I was praying and asking the Lord if there was anything he wanted me to do in the way of housework that had to be done and he kept telling me to wash the dishes. Now, I was really sick and all I wanted to do was to go to bed, but even after I got in bed I could not sleep. I kept thinking about how the Lord wanted me to wash the dishes. Now, to be honest, they have sat overnight before so it isn't like they had to be done. So, I'm like, what's with having to wash the dishes? Is someone going to die overnight and people are coming to my house? No joke! That is what went through my mind.

So, like an obedient daugther, I got up out of bed and I washed the dishes. Now, the next day I'm wondering why I needed to get up in the night to wash the dishes. Then it hit me that the Lord was pointing me to the dishes in the cupboard that needed to be washed because the "honey" was spilled all over them. Does that click in your head? There needs to be a cleansing in the "cupboard" because of the "spilling" of the "honey".

Ok, that should give you some stuff to chaw on along with answering my little question about the "cow."

 

[Christsfreeservant]

Oh, my understanding of "dishes" are what is used to serve the food or to eat the food off of. From a spiritual standpoint, I saw that as the preachers who were serving out the spiritual food, so the parallel could mean that the "dishes" are the people in government, i.e. our national leaders; our shepherds.

 

[heron]

This was his second deployment with only 9 months home in between.

)-:

Yes, mom, I'll try to get some rest today, too!

Good girl, I knew you would. (-;

cash cow -- slang for a great money-making plan (a franchise, pyramid scheme, high-profit business) sometimes with derogatory connotations.

For instance, using overseas businesses to get higher profits with fewer regulations....

An article out today talks about private information being stolen by hackers placing viruses in overseas products that are shipped to the US -- with a potential of huge income through theft. The large corporations hadn't taken the time to screen the products...

The aircraft contract above reflects what you were saying about government spending, maybe a perception of tax dollars as a bottomless pit.

The investigations on Spitzer's setting up funding to cover the prostitution, knowing about the high-class prostitution ring and possibly getting kickbacks for staying quiet (a guess) ...

Tying it in with spilled honey, people who didn't appreciate the rich sweetness they had, and treated it carelessly -- preventing others from ever benefiting from the stash again.

"dishes" are what is used to serve the food or to eat the food off of. From a spiritual standpoint, I saw that as the preachers who were serving out the spiritual food, so the parallel could mean that the "dishes" are the people in government, i.e. our national leaders; our shepherds.

Honey, feeding pearls to swine...

Honeybees are needed to pollinate plants and vegetables and stuff, right? If they failed to produce the sperm necessary to pollinate the plants then that would impact plant growth, right?

Yes, they pollinate and it's a growing concern that there's a shortage of bees... (pesticides, who knows what else). Failing to multiply seems a stretch from a cupboard jar of honey, don't you think? But you seem to have a clear sense of what the dream is about, so that's up to you.

Washing the dishes, that made me laugh. I had a couple of instructions like that when I had the flu -- I think one was even the dishes! -- and I was so tired I knew I needed that kick to isolate one manageable task and do it.

But each time, I ended up finding something that was missing, so spending the few minutes following instructions saved me lots of time! He is good.
And kept the germs from growing in the sink, lol.

 

[Christsfreeservant]

thanks, heron, for all those insights. I think it is time to take the rest of the evening off and spend some time with my "honey".