Speed of sanctification to guess your age at death

GreatistheLord said:

Since God knows when you will die, can you use the speed of sanctification to guess when you will die? As it finishes
When you are dead.

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nope, sanctification is not tied to death. the two are independent of each other.
If your theory were true, everyone who was baptized would immediately experience death as they came up out of the water.

yes, God does know the entire span of our life and how it will end because He Himself is the Creator of Life, and has made sanctification possible for men. but it is not given to men to know when they will die.

So, like, what is the "speed of sanctification"?

Is Sanctification the name of a race horse?

-CryptoLutheran

GreatistheLord said:

Its the rate in which you become christlike and finishes when you die

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Well then since it's something you made up, I'm not sure how to answer.

-CryptoLutheran

GreatistheLord said:

I dont know which bit isnt in the Bible. Its called sanctification

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Our holiness comes from Christ, it's not ours. We are holy because by the grace of God we have been united to Jesus in Baptism and have been clothed with His righteousness.

But there isn't a ladder of holiness that we climb. I am not a more righteous, more sacred person tomorrow than I am today.

The only righteousness, the only holiness that I will know in this life is not my own, but Christ's.

God's work in me, by His means, to give me faith to trust in Christ, who gives me His Holy Spirit, who nourishes me by Word and Sacrament, is daily calling me to repentance. And He who began a good work will continue that good work until the the Last Day.

Since each and every person is a sinner, a flawed, faltering, broken sinner; and since none of us are righteous--only Christ is righteous--then we must look to Christ, the Author and Finisher of our faith.

So the idea of a "speed of sanctification" or any notion of progressive sanctification is simply a non-thing.

Our Christian life is not a life of moral improvement, of reaching up to each new rung on the ladder toward God. It is instead in the reality of God come down to meet us in our weakness and sin, of the Christ who suffered and died, who was raised up; and by whom you and I have received from God grace beyond measure. We have become partakers of Christ by the gracious offering of God to us, given us His Holy Spirit. You and me, sinners that we are, wretches that we are, this God has done for us.

God has come down to us, we do not climb upward to Him. Christianity is about the God who comes down, it is not about man going up.

-CryptoLutheran

This seems to be one of the stranger threads I have encountered here. If becoming a better person determines one's longevity folks like Hitler and Stalin would be enjoying eternal life - on this earth.

How about all those terrible Christians who died by being displeasing to God, like Ananias and Sapphira.

And then what about these here. I suppose God was finished with them in this life. These people were judged and they died. God's purpose in His judgement is performed so that we are not judged as the world will be, meaning to go to hell.

1 Corinthians 11
26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.

Examine Yourself
27 Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood[d] of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner[e] eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord’s[f] body.

30 For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep. 31 For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world.

33 Therefore, my brethren, when you come together to eat, wait for one another. 34 But if anyone is hungry, let him eat at home, lest you come together for judgment. And the rest I will set in order when I come.

GreatistheLord said:

can you use the speed of sanctification to guess when you will die?

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Only if you roll an 11 or higher.