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Speed of light ... possibly not as constant as it was!

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Hi all,

I would like to know what impact you all think yesterday's announcement by CERN has on the theology of Creationism? I am not partisan in any way, I keep an open mind on origins theology .. this is just thrown out there to people smarter than me to give their opinion on the ramifications (if any) of this. My understanding is that the Special Theory of Relativity relies rather heavily on a constant speed of light, and much of modern day physics relies on that theory to work. What is the impact on Creationism I wonder? If this turns out to be true (and that's up for debate and further experimentation at the moment) then is this a good thing or a bad thing for Creationism?

Speed of light 'broken' at CERN, scientists claim


It was Albert Einstein, no less, who proposed more than 100 years ago that nothing could travel faster than the speed of light.

But last night it emerged that the man who laid the foundations for the laws of nature may have been wrong.

The science world was left in shock when workers at the world’s largest physics lab announced they had recorded subatomic particles travelling faster than the speed of light

If the findings are proven to be accurate, they would overturn one of the pillars of the Standard Model of physics, which explains the way the universe and everything within it works.

Einstein’s theory of special relativity, proposed in 1905, states that nothing in the universe can travel faster than the speed of light in a vacuum. But researchers at the CERN lab near Geneva claim they have recorded neutrinos, a type of tiny particle, travelling faster than the barrier of 186,282 miles (299,792 kilometers) per second.

The results have so astounded researchers that American and Japanese scientists have been asked to verify the results before they are confirmed as a discovery.


(Source: The Telegraph Online .. I can't post links yet otherwise I would credit the site properly!)
 

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Hi all,

I would like to know what impact you all think yesterday's announcement by CERN has on the theology of Creationism? I am not partisan in any way, I keep an open mind on origins theology .. this is just thrown out there to people smarter than me to give their opinion on the ramifications (if any) of this. My understanding is that the Special Theory of Relativity relies rather heavily on a constant speed of light, and much of modern day physics relies on that theory to work. What is the impact on Creationism I wonder? If this turns out to be true (and that's up for debate and further experimentation at the moment) then is this a good thing or a bad thing for Creationism?

Speed of light 'broken' at CERN, scientists claim


It was Albert Einstein, no less, who proposed more than 100 years ago that nothing could travel faster than the speed of light.

But last night it emerged that the man who laid the foundations for the laws of nature may have been wrong.

The science world was left in shock when workers at the world’s largest physics lab announced they had recorded subatomic particles travelling faster than the speed of light

If the findings are proven to be accurate, they would overturn one of the pillars of the Standard Model of physics, which explains the way the universe and everything within it works.

Einstein’s theory of special relativity, proposed in 1905, states that nothing in the universe can travel faster than the speed of light in a vacuum. But researchers at the CERN lab near Geneva claim they have recorded neutrinos, a type of tiny particle, travelling faster than the barrier of 186,282 miles (299,792 kilometers) per second.

The results have so astounded researchers that American and Japanese scientists have been asked to verify the results before they are confirmed as a discovery.


(Source: The Telegraph Online .. I can't post links yet otherwise I would credit the site properly!)

Personally I see no ramifications whatsoever. The discovery (if verified) that there are particles that can travel 20 parts per million faster than light does not change the age of the universe from 13.7 billion years to 6000 years.

BTW - 20 parts per million added to the speed of light (which is not what the findings suggest) would only increase it from 186,282 MPS to a little under 186,286 MPS. This may be a game changer in understanding the laws of physics...but it would have no real impact on the age of the universe whatsoever.
 
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I have no idea what the ramifications on Creationism would be, but if it turns out it is possible to travel faster than the fast, that would be incredible.

Imagine - perhaps one day in the far flung-future we could travel to distant galaxies in a couple of days or even a couple of hours ...
 
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See this: ]Neutrino stories move faster than the speed of science | by Martin Robbins @mjrobbins | Science | guardian.co.uk[/url] for better reportage.

I guess that is what makes science so fun, claim and counter claim and sceptics and believers. A little like religion ... ! But yes, balanced reporting is necessary and I don't suppose it's prudent to throw your hat in the ring and start undoing all the laws of physics just yet.
 
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Who wants you to think science is solid?

In every modern physics class I went to in university, every lecturer thought it was interesting that the things being described were not known a hundred years ago.

Scientists are comfortable with change. Then again, if we scientists don't change our minds we're being dogmatic, and if we change our minds we're hardly worth trusting since we might change our minds tomorrow. There's no way we can win, now is there? :p
 
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