Speaking in Tongues?

[Halie Stevens]

https://youtu.be/bSd9T-FZMdk My sister believes she has this gift... Could someone help us understand a little bit better?

Thanks.

 

[eleos1954]

https://youtu.be/bSd9T-FZMdk My sister believes she has this gift... Could someone help us understand a little bit better?

Thanks.

On the day of pentecost when the gift of tongues was given, the languages spoken ... were known languages ... that is languages that people already had/knew.

Acts 2:8-11
And how is it that we hear, each of us in his own native language? Parthians and Medes and Elamites and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya belonging to Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabians—we hear them telling in our own tongues (languages) the mighty works of God.”

So ... as far as your sister goes .... what known language is she speaking in?

 

[Albion]

https://youtu.be/bSd9T-FZMdk My sister believes she has this gift... Could someone help us understand a little bit better?

Thanks.

Is Kayla your sister? If so, there already is a thread dealing with this video and you might want to check it out.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

https://youtu.be/bSd9T-FZMdk My sister believes she has this gift... Could someone help us understand a little bit better?

Thanks.

It's the same syllables.

In general, I find the passage that speaks to this the most is the one that says to pray to interpret so the whole church can be edified.

That repetitive sentence might actually be a message, but I don't understand it myself.

 

[SkyWriting]

https://youtu.be/bSd9T-FZMdk My sister believes she has this gift... Could someone help us understand a little bit better?

Thanks.

Belief is a funny thing.....

 

[Hillsage]

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https://youtu.be/bSd9T-FZMdk My sister believes she has this gift... Could someone help us understand a little bit better?

Thanks.

You've posted in the wrong forum to 'understand a little better' IMO. Especially if you know nothing, which is what the video indicates to me. And if that's the case, then you will be 'more confused than learned' here in the UNORTHODOX community. You'll hear confusing views from those here who don't have the gift and therefore don't think your sister or anyone else should either. You'll also have those who think it's for everyone who is a believer. You've already heard one say it was only known languages spoken on the day of Pentecost AND any other time. I disagree. But guess what? Most commenting here have never spoken in a tongue at all.

But do let me share this, there's two sources of tongues; ONE is from your spirit speaking through you to God, and TWO is the tongue from the Holy Spirit speaking through you to men. The one where your spirit is praying isn't a known language to any human because it is an angelic or heavenly language which no man understands.

1CO 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

Translators are also as confused about this subject as most others, because they themselves probably don't have a prayer language either, therefore you can't always trust capitalization. But in this verse more translations don't capitalize "spirit" here because it's not talking about the Holy Spirit, but your spirit. In the 7 translations I'm looking at 6 have a small 's' and 3 have a capital 'S'.

As for your sister's situation, we/I don't have enough information to know for sure what she has. How did this happen? Is she even a Christian? Satan worshipers can speak in tongues. As for her language, it sounded pretty repetitive to me. That, in and of itself, doesn't mean much though to one who understands this gift. Many will say; because it doesn't go on, like an English sentence, it isn't a language at all. But your computer has a 'language', and it's based upon two numbers. A (0) and a (1). It is called a binary language that speaks more than you or I do with 26 letters in our alphabet and 10 numbers 0-9.

I hope this helps a bit.

 

[swordsman1]

https://youtu.be/bSd9T-FZMdk My sister believes she has this gift... Could someone help us understand a little bit better?

Thanks.

This sounds much like the 'tongues' that is taught in Pentecostal and charismatic churches today. It is not the gift of tongues that the New Testament describes. The only description of the gift is in Act 2 and it is clearly people miraculously speaking in a foreign human language they have never learned. There is no other scripture that extends that description. The unintelligible utterances that have appeared in the last 100 years in Pentecostal and Charismatic churches are clearly not human languages and professional linguists have confirmed this. Instead they will claim it is a heavenly language but there is nothing in scripture that says tongues was anything other than foreign human languages.

They will attempt to justify non-human tongues by misquoting a couple of verses from 1 Corinthians. 1 Corinthian 14:2 is a favourite but what they are doing is quoting the verse out of context which is a common exegetical fallacy. The context of the chapter 14 is church meetings, so when Paul says that "no one understands" he is referring to no one IN THE CONGREGATION, not no one on the face of the earth. Because the congregation in Corinth did not recognize the tongues spoken there does not mean it was non-human. If someone was speaking say Persian in a small Greek house church it is not surprising no one understood what was spoken.

The other verse they use to try and justify non-human tongues is 1 Cor 13:1 where Paul refers to the 'tongues of angels'. But again that is a verse taken out of context. If you look at the next 2 verses you can see this forms one of 5 parallel statements where Paul uses exaggerated hypothetical examples to make the point that even if someone had a spiritual gift to the highest conceivable degree it would be worthless without love.

From the writings of the Church Fathers immediately after the apostolic age, right up to the start of the 20th Century the church has always understood tongues to be foreign human languages. And it was also pretty much universally accepted that this miraculous gift ceased shortly after the apostolic age. So Paul was correct, tongues did cease. Pentecostals and charismatics say it has now been restored in the last 100 years. But what they practice is not the NT gift of tongues - it doesn't match the biblical description. Instead what they have discovered is the natural physiological phenomenon known to linguists as glossolalia or free vocalization where the human vocal organs go into autopilot and produce strings of random syllables (much like a baby talks nonsense when it is learning to speak). The phenomenon has been well studied by professional linguists and is common among pagan religions and other non-Christian groups (which rules it out as coming from the Holy Spirit). It is rather a purely physiological technique that most people can discover how to practice.

 

[Hillsage]

As I said Halie, you'll get all kinds of 'opinions' here based upon lots of different motivations. Just remember this, the tongues of Pentecost was two different tongues. ONE was unintelligible to men, and when this "sound" was first made in the temple, it caused an uproar and a gathering of the crowd on the day of Pentecost. The second tongue on Pentecost was languages of the men in that crowd who had gathered because of the unintelligible tongue. A tongue which caused those who were "ungifted" or "unlearned" in the crowd concerning this gift, to call the disciples "drunk".

ACT 2:15 For these men are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day;

Years later at the tongue speaking church in Corinth, Paul was concerned that those same kind of ungifted ones would say these tongue speaking people were "mad". Today they say we speak 'gibberish or babel', neither of which is even biblical, but just demeaning. It really should be called 'goading' or 'flaming' according to the 'rules' here, but it never is.

NAS 1CO 14:23 Therefore if the whole church assembles together and all speak in tongues, and ungifted men or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are mad?

This verse above sounds like the "ungifted" category which you and your boyfriend might be in. That is ,of course, unless you aren't even Christians... but are in the category of "unbelievers".

You just need to decide if you think someone here who does not have the 'gift of tongues', and therefore is in the "ungifted" category, is really qualified to speak to this situation correctly. IMO if you are "ungifted"/NAS or "unlearned"/KJV, you're at least partially UN QUALIFIED. But that is a decision you will have to make.