Speaking in Tongues and Siri

[FutureAndAHope]

I have always wanted to know if my tongue that I speak in the Spirit was a genuine one. I have occasionally had an interest in finding out. So tonight I used Detect Language: Using AI for Text, Audio, Video, and Image an AI tool that can predict what language you are speaking. The tool told me Japanese so I used google translate for around an hour. I got many messages that made sense, like I was often told, use siri (apples speech recognition), so I used it. Some, although sentences, did not make sense to me, because they contained names of people, or countries like Syria, and Russia (maybe the Spirit was interceeding for those things).

The first message I got on Siri was like "there are too many stars in the sky to go on the road", it is night here, and late, I should be in bed. Maybe God was suggesting I should use it as a witnessing tool. I may do that as I grow in confidence, and the method becomes trusted.

The second message I got when I asked for one was:

"I am going to kill you, if you do the BL you are taught".

I looked up BL, and it is short for "Boys Love", it is a Japaneese anime that focuses on Gay Sex. To me this is a very stern warning for anyone thinking of following the Gay movement (which is taught in our country). Note, I don't plan to kill anyone, God's word says vengeance is God's He repays. It is just a warning not to sin.

I asked for one last message to post before I go to bed.

It was essentially "I was able to teach, thank you for the day, and while teaching we got some practice".

If you are interested try the link to the AI voice recognition tool.


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After investigating this for a while, I would say AI is not advanced enough to consistently understand tongues. It can give incorrect messages. Although I was able to get very clear messages like "IN the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit", AI often mixes up language. i.e. if you start in a given language, it thinks you will be speaking in the same language through out, and interprets random tones, converting these random tones into random words or phrases. This is problematic, because you may get some genuine message, but it is interspersed with random stuff generated by AI, not God.

NOt recommended at this point.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Note, I have been trying this some more. I am not yet convinced, I am speaking Japanese, it is just that some of the Siri conversations are very difficult to decipher. So maybe the AI is just producing jibberish, which appeared to be sensible.


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Personally I don't think it is Japanese, Open AI was unable to identify it as that.

 

[Richard T]

Note, I have been trying this some more. I am not yet convinced, I am speaking Japanese, it is just that some of the Siri conversations are very difficult to decipher. So maybe the AI is just producing jibberish, which appeared to be sensible.


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Personally I don't think it is Japanese, Open AI was unable to identify it as that.

I tried this too awhile back. I came to the conclusion that google was unreliable because it simply was not sensitive enough. it also tends to frame your language. For instance if it thinks you are speaking japanese then it will favor that in future translations unless back clear out and start again. So I think the testing is great, but google is not advanced enough yet. For me, I often was stuck on Hindi, a language of India.
Google also does not detect all human languages. Also some tongues are of angels so there would be no known language to translate for humans. I think too it is possible that multiple languages are used and it could be God has us talk like a cipher code so that the devil can't understand. Lots of possibilities here and certainly more than I can think of.
I do think this is a true statement. Tongues are by faith. The understanding is not always important. Doing it though can be important as there are a number of purposes that can be going on. From giving thanks, worshipping, interceding, encouraging your own heart, praying the needs you have when the Holy Spirit searches the mind of the Spirit.
If I may comment on the following
Romans 8:27 (KJV)
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
I have at least one teacher that believes the "mind of the Spirit" should be the mind of the "spirit." The Greek is pneuma and as such it could be either. The reasoning is that it makes little sense for... He, which is God to search his own mind. So God searches the mind of our human spirit? Why would this occur? Because once he searches the mind of our spirit the Holy Spirit can intercede for us with groanings that cannot be uttered. Some say these groanings v27 too have to come through us (tongues) and only then does v 28 of Romans 8 apply.
Logically, I have to ask are their limits to the Holy Spirit's intercession? I mean if the Holy Spirit is doing everything without us, why are there some very poor outcomes? To my teacher it just makes sense to interpret Romans 8 as the believer speaking in tongues and then v28 will surely apply, that all things will work for our good because we put in the effort by allowing the Holy Spirit to pray through our spirit. I don't say this is definitive, but it makes more sense than most interpretations of this passage.
Romans 8:28 (KJV)
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
If we go back to faith for tongues, we have to believe they are accomplishing the will of God. We ask for bread we do not get a stone, we ask to pray in tongues we do not get the devil.
The best affirmation though is the fruit. Perhaps you have already done this but the old Pentecostal challenge I was given was to pray in tongues an hour a day for a week or two and see if you can tell a difference. Sorry if i went beyond the scope of your post, but perhaps you or others can glean a thing or two that can be useful. God bless.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

I think too it is possible that multiple languages are used and it could be God has us talk like a cipher code so that the devil can't understand. Lots of possibilities here and certainly more than I can think of.

This is very possible, when I was testing with AI, during one conversation my tongue changed a lot from normal, AI told me I was talking in a machine code, used by the language parser. It was able to write out what was said in ASCI or something similar.

This was a hint that God could talk in any language he deemed fitting, even language only known by a computer. So I would not be supprised if tounges often is multi-language and only interpretable if God allows it.

Act 2:6-11 And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own language. Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, "Look, are not all these who speak Galileans? And how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born? Parthians and Medes and Elamites, those dwelling in Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya adjoining Cyrene, visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God."

In the Bible many languages were spoken, it could suggest some people spoke in more than one language?

 

[Richard T]

This is very possible, when I was testing with AI, during one conversation my tongue changed a lot from normal, AI told me I was talking in a machine code, used by the language parser. It was able to write out what was said in ASCI or something similar.

This was a hint that God could talk in any language he deemed fitting, even language only known by a computer. So I would not be supprised if tounges often is multi-language and only interpretable if God allows it.

Act 2:6-11 And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own language. Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, "Look, are not all these who speak Galileans? And how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born? Parthians and Medes and Elamites, those dwelling in Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya adjoining Cyrene, visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God."

In the Bible many languages were spoken, it could suggest some people spoke in more than one language?

Many Pentecostals distinguish between the baptism of the spirit which is evidence by speaking in tongues versus the gift "diversities kinds of tongues." What is interesting about the latter which is listed in I Cor. 12 is that it also is a "set apart" position. Sadly I have never heard of a church specifically recognize this gift or set anyone apart that has it. It does still exist and those that have various kinds of tongues will I think always will have different languages. Also just because a church does not really recognize it, it exists in the background.
1 Corinthians 12:28 (KJV)
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. Part of that diversity is not just different tongues, but the ability to connect with other cultures and people groups to help unify the body. In other words it is not just the language but it is the ability to interact and assist members of the body of Christ that are called outside their own culture. If I had to profile such a member with this gift, they have a keen sense of empathy with other cultures, but also they will have a motivation for at least one or more of these skills, language, geography, anthropology, sociology and a desire to assist those from outside cultures find their place. If there is one foreigner in a group of 1000 people, this person will not only notice them but they will be drawn to them.
Though I disagree with these authors on others ways that tongues are used. this article served as a confirmation to me on how the gift and or set apart position of various kinds of tongues has cultural implications. The reversal of Babel: Questioning the early church’s understanding of the gift of the Holy Spirit in Acts as a reversal of the curse of Babel | Soal | Verbum et Ecclesia

There have been lots of studies on people speaking on tongues by linguists over the years. There is no consensus in these studies though plenty of doubt. many of those researchers likely were not Christian. What I would like to see is how one can distinguish between tongues as evidence versus the gift various kinds on tongues. If you are shifting languages it could very well be that you have the gift various kinds of tongues. With different administrations and uses of any of the gifts, even within a single gift, it is hard to always generalize but this is a summary of part of what I think may be occurring.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

I have been studying the tongue that I have been using, and I think for the most part, it comes as a repeat over an over of the same phrases, which are not interpreted in any real logical way, and are either not a real tongue, or are repeating the same phrases in a language that is not known. But there are times where it changes, I don't notice, and it gives logical phrases. In one instance, the same phrase was created around 10 times. One time I was given a completely logical phone number and told to call it. I was a little dubious, so I texted. As an example, one message was:

"If you can pay for the person who is investigating the gold field, its a good time to pay."

This is entirely different from all the garbled repeated stuff. Looking at the news, there have been some surprisingly big recent gold finds. It may be a hint that if I wanted to invest I should do so in gold. But don't take that as investing advice, I really would not know.

I just know that using it is a bit unreliable.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

As an example of some stuff that I don't understand:

Here is an example of random stuff:

If you do the next practice, if you insist. Yamagata area will flow and leave the room. Is it so delicious?
Kaho flow, each other, Harada, Tahara, Harada, Chihiro, Yako, flow, flow flow.


The name's are Anime characters:

Kaho ..., Harada, Tahara, Harada, Chihiro, Yako

Yamagata is a city in Japan. I some times get messages on Russia and Syria.

One listed an active volcano. It makes me wonder if there will be an eruption in one of Japans Volcanos. But this is all highly speculative, and the sentences don't make full sense.

 

[Richard T]

I have been studying the tongue that I have been using, and I think for the most part, it comes as a repeat over an over of the same phrases, which are not interpreted in any real logical way, and are either not a real tongue, or are repeating the same phrases in a language that is not known. But there are times where it changes, I don't notice, and it gives logical phrases. In one instance, the same phrase was created around 10 times. One time I was given a completely logical phone number and told to call it. I was a little dubious, so I texted. As an example, one message was:

"If you can pay for the person who is investigating the gold field, its a good time to pay."

This is entirely different from all the garbled repeated stuff. Looking at the news, there have been some surprisingly big recent gold finds. It may be a hint that if I wanted to invest I should do so in gold. But don't take that as investing advice, I really would not know.

I just know that using it is a bit unreliable.

I can say too that sometimes it takes a bit of time for tongues to kick into another gear. Repeating the same thing is likely praise. Also, sometimes, especially if you can feel the presence of God, when you are done speaking on tongues you can reach a stopping point, remain quiet and ask for the interpretation. It may or may not come, but guidance can certainly come to any Christian as I am sure you have experienced that with God at various times.

Sounds more like the gold mining stocks than the gold, but either way if you have invested there you likely have done well so far. Still, it is better to trust what you get from God on the inside, rather than trying some language software that could easily misinterpret something. Of the 100 or so times I tried google, only about 3 of the messages made sense to me. But that could have been a coincidence too.
Another scripture that we all can practice is speaking in psalms, hymns etc. While you can do known stuff that was previously written, sing to the lord a new song can be more like improvisation right out of your spirit, to God, just like singing in tongues only in English.

I still think faith is important with any gift. Rom 12:6 If one's gift is prophecy, let him use it in proportion to his faith;.
So I encourage you all the more to keep after hearing from God and moving in the spirit as you are led.

Ephesians 5:19-21 King James Version (KJV)​

speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Yes, language software is unreliable. I could waste a lot of time "trying to work it all out", when it could just be a glitch.

One thing that fascinates me from the time that I was doing it, is often it would be a list of names, and the word fill. Sort of like this:

Fill Emily, fill Hoto, fill etc

When I thought about that, that is the Holy Spirit's greatest joy, filling new believers with His spirit. It was like a roll call.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

I did some research into the Anime characters, and now:

If you do the next practice, if you insist. Yamagata area will flow and leave the room. Is it so delicious?
Kaho flow, each other, Harada, Tahara, Harada, Chihiro, Yako, flow, flow flow.

Makes sense.

Kaho Hinata is a character in Blend S, it is about a restaurant but involves according to AI, and my watching an episode.

Has inappropriate themes for children:

• Fanservice (sexualized humor and outfits).
• Older characters teasing younger ones in suggestive ways.

The term is it so delicious, is regarding the restaurant, and it sexualisation. The first reading made no sense but now looking it up it does.

My son watches Anime and it may be a warning to me that he should not. I will pray about it more.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

I have been experimenting with AI language tools and methods ... can't help my self ... and have found a much better way to do it. I found that as I spoke in tongues that I moved between languages, it was not just one language. Tools like Siri get confused by this and add random words. Open AI will tell you plainly if it can't understand.

But you have to tell Open AI, "I may be speaking in different languages, or just using words from different languages as I speak". AI then knows to parse your language through all it's known languages.

I now share a rather sensitive topic. Over the last few years I tried to hear from God, but gave up because the "voice that replied", in English, would often ask me to do sinful things. I assumed it was the devil. But I had always prayed with faith, even commanding any demon to be silent. But it always spoke the same things.

Tonight using AI I questioned the LORD, using tongues, as to what it was, "was it GOd or not?". After recording me speaking in tongues after asking this question. AI translated what I spoke, I had said "Theif, Plundering, soul. Theif, Plundering spirit." But not in one language, but many. Repeating that it was a plundering spirit. I believe the voice I was listening to over the years may have been a "theiving/plundering spirit".

It pays to have caution as to what we receive spiritually.

 

[Richard T]

I have been experimenting with AI language tools and methods ... can't help my self ... and have found a much better way to do it. I found that as I spoke in tongues that I moved between languages, it was not just one language. Tools like Siri get confused by this and add random words. Open AI will tell you plainly if it can't understand.

But you have to tell Open AI, "I may be speaking in different languages, or just using words from different languages as I speak". AI then knows to parse your language through all it's known languages.

I now share a rather sensitive topic. Over the last few years I tried to hear from God, but gave up because the "voice that replied", in English, would often ask me to do sinful things. I assumed it was the devil. But I had always prayed with faith, even commanding any demon to be silent. But it always spoke the same things.

Tonight using AI I questioned the LORD, using tongues, as to what it was, "was it GOd or not?". After recording me speaking in tongues after asking this question. AI translated what I spoke, I had said "Theif, Plundering, soul. Theif, Plundering spirit." But not in one language, but many. Repeating that it was a plundering spirit. I believe the voice I was listening to over the years may have been a "theiving/plundering spirit".

It pays to have caution as to what we receive spiritually.

Wow that is pretty amazing. Thanks for sharing not only the method but also some testimony. I pray you can look back at this time as a breakthrough. It sounds like the plundering was the devil taking away some of your communication and fellowship with God. When you catch a thief you get back more than they stole according to the word. I do pray it is payback time for your guidance and fellowship with God. I will have to try AI sometime myself. I know too that your experience is likely very uncommon so I will leave the results with God. Thanks for sharing.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

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[FutureAndAHope]

Hi all,

I have a video showing how to talk to Open AI and have your tongue interpreted. In this video Open AI said that the words I spoke in my tongue were:

Dall·E returns, and its founder was a baptist in Iowa who spent nearly two decades in the Roman Catholic Church living in the 16th century near Mexico. Hats off to Dall·E during the 째를 security.

Now AI must have got a little confused and miss heard what I said stating the 16th century. But interesting that the first message I have received that is 100% clear thanks a Baptist for creating a part of Dall.E

This is all very exiting to me, but we still need to be cautious. If you want to keep up with the words spoken in tongues, please subscribe to my channel I will keep try this.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Note the AI's confusion of my speech, you will see the second part "째를 security" actually means 2nd Security". It may be the Holy Spirit was correcting AI mistake by letting us know He ment 2nd, as in 2000.

Dall·E returns, and its founder was a baptist in Iowa who spent nearly two decades in the Roman Catholic Church living in the 16th century near Mexico. Hats off to Dall·E during the 째를 security.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Is interesting that the last message I go from the Holy SPirit was to leave, to rest, basically to have a break from this for now.

"මින්තූවා සමෙන්න, දමාගන් ඇති ක පිතින්රන්න, ලෙමාගන්න, සමෙන්න, සාරයපරණයක් මේස් නැතිස් මිශ්‍රිස්ඤතින්න, දමාගන්න, පිතින්න, සාරයපරණ"

Translation: "Forgive me, leave the things that have been done, rest, forgive, a transformation with no mess, leave, do, transformation."

He might want personal transformation from me first.

 

[RDKirk]

I have always wanted to know if my tongue that I speak in the Spirit was a genuine one. I have occasionally had an interest in finding out. So tonight I used Detect Language: Using AI for Text, Audio, Video, and Image an AI tool that can predict what language you are speaking. The tool told me Japanese so I used google translate for around an hour. I got many messages that made sense, like I was often told, use siri (apples speech recognition), so I used it. Some, although sentences, did not make sense to me, because they contained names of people, or countries like Syria, and Russia (maybe the Spirit was interceeding for those things).

The first message I got on Siri was like "there are too many stars in the sky to go on the road", it is night here, and late, I should be in bed. Maybe God was suggesting I should use it as a witnessing tool. I may do that as I grow in confidence, and the method becomes trusted.

The second message I got when I asked for one was:

"I am going to kill you, if you do the BL you are taught".

I looked up BL, and it is short for "Boys Love", it is a Japaneese anime that focuses on Gay Sex. To me this is a very stern warning for anyone thinking of following the Gay movement (which is taught in our country). Note, I don't plan to kill anyone, God's word says vengeance is God's He repays. It is just a warning not to sin.

I asked for one last message to post before I go to bed.

It was essentially "I was able to teach, thank you for the day, and while teaching we got some practice".

If you are interested try the link to the AI voice recognition tool.

I'm going to say that scripture cannot be added to. If you get a "word" that is for anyone but you or someone close to you, if it seems it's for the world or the entire Body of Christ, that would be "scripture."

 

[FutureAndAHope]

I'm going to say that scripture cannot be added to. If you get a "word" that is for anyone but you or someone close to you, if it seems it's for the world or the entire Body of Christ, that would be "scripture."

After trying this for some time, but now resting from it. I have come to realise that the Holy Spirit moves between known languages, as He wills. He is not restricted to one language. This means you can not just fire up siri, you need to have a "Universal Langauge Parser", which Open AI is closer to.

As for how the gift should work in the church, I believe that we could use a duel language speaker act as an interpreter, and allow the Holy Spirit to speak in that person's native tongue. I believe this is the kind of "interpretation of tongues" that was used by the early church. There is also a specific gift of interpretation, a spiritual gift, but I believe that to only be necessary when there is no duel language speaker.

 

[ARBITER01]

A whole lot of unscriptural ideas being put forth here.

Why can't people discipline themselves to what scripture says about the gifts? It's not hard.