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Me too.....I'll take an order of Scripture,... hold the Tradition.
or, that praying to Saints (dead, or not dead, or passed on, whatever you wish to define it as, I don't care) was practiced by Christ and the Apostles either.
Then you can verbatim quote Jesus and at least 2 of the 13 Apostles.
Go ahead. Be sure to reference the quotes.
Thank you!
Pax
- Josiah
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With out Tradition there would be no Scriptures and no Christianity.
Peace
sure sure... you're evading the point.I didn't define it. The One Christian Church did. Before it became the Cc, EOC and the OO.
Peace
evading again. You say Christ taught it. Show this. You say the apostles taught this. Show this. Else it's just an unsupported claim.And that would prove what? Since we can't quote them verbatim about many things that are held to be Truth's by Christians.
Peace
this old lie again? sheesh. more summer reruns.With out Tradition there would be no Scriptures and no Christianity.
Peace
sure sure... you're evading the point.
evading again. You say Christ taught it. Show this. You say the apostles taught this. Show this. Else it's just an unsupported claim.
like this one. Jesus taught that you had to wear brown sandals only. Everything else is sinful. We can prove this, because we have an unbroken chain of Jim-bobs going all the way back to the first century. Don't believe me? Here's the list we compiled. that proves it. I have a list of names, so therefore THEY taught whatever we taught now.
now devoid of the Catholic cliam, do you see how silly that all sounds?
this old lie again? sheesh. more summer reruns.
And that would prove what? Since we can't quote them....
1. It would "prove" the statement correct that, "Jesus and the Apostles taught it."
2. I know you can't quote them, thus the claim is only that - a claim, with nothing to support it.
3. Anyone can claim anything (ego permitting). IF your point is that a claim is correct if the one making it says it is OR it is correct if a denomination says it is, then we disagree on a more fundamental level (and I'd love to discuss Mormonism with you, lol).
Back to the issue of this thread: is it "loving" to say things about Our Blessed Lady not known to be true?
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Kind of like the Trinity. Jesus being 100% God and Human from the moment of conception. Which cannot be quoted verbatim by the Apostles and Jesus.
It would prove what?
this point has been refuted before. Trinity is in scripture. Explicit? no. but it is there.Kind of like the Trinity. Jesus being 100% God and Human from the moment of conception. Which cannot be quoted verbatim by the Apostles and Jesus.
Like I posted before. It would prove what?
Your argument is not sound.
Peace
this point has been refuted before. Trinity is in scripture. Explicit? no. but it is there.
there is no explicit, or implicit, or even remote mention of prayer to saints, or any of the Marian dogmas.
they are extra-biblical. And while that does not neccessarily make them untrue, it does expose this argument for the smelly red herring that it is.
Trinity is in scripture. Explicit? no. but it is there....
Our friend lionroar0 stated, "it's right because it's what has been taught by Jesus and the Apostles."
Therefore, I asked, "Then you can verbatim quote Jesus and at least 2 of the 13 Apostles. Go ahead. Be sure to reference the quotes. Thank you!"
Our friend lionroar0 replied, "And that would prove what?
I replied, "1. It would "prove" your statement that, "Jesus and the Apostles taught it."
No, it hasn't been answered.
Instead, I was rebuked for asking the question.
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quote=lionroar0;48301696]It would the same answer. If it was asked about the Trinity. No we can't quote either Jesus and the Aposltes about the Trinity.(verbatim)
We can't quote them Verbatim about Sola Scriptura either.
Heb1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;We can't quote them verbatim about the hypostatic union.
Faith.And even when they are quoted verbatim people disagree on the interpretion.
I asked before. It would prove what??
and saying that makes it so. My word, if that's all it takes....Nope not even close to a red herring.
granted. But it is in scripture. That is what you refuse to acknowledge. That it is there, and can be seen. As opposed to the Marian dogmas and prayer to Saints, no matter how much you want to say it's there, it's not. Not even a whisper of it.Implicit because of Tradition.
I've read it. Lacking, as usual, in anything compelling to believe it.Just like the Marian Dogmas and prayer to the Saints. If you would like I can copy and paste others that have already addressed these issues.
Peace
no. It's called exposing a fact that you aren't willing to readily admit.1st it's a leading question, because the answer is obviouly no. This is called baiting.
refuted. Scripture addresses it.It would the same answer. If it was asked about the Trinity. No we can't quote either Jesus and the Aposltes about the Trinity.(verbatim)
how many times must you be told what Sola Scriptura really is?We can't quote them Verbatim about Sola Scriptura either.
please. It's just a fancy term for Jesus is God, Jesus is Man. Scripture is pretty clear on that matter.We can't quote them verbatim about the hypostatic union.
they ever mention an infant baptism?We can't quote them verbatim about Baptism. Is it infant or not?
yeah... some just decide to believe whatever their leaders tell them, regardless if it's there or not.And even when they are quoted verbatim people disagree on the interpretion.
not a thing. It's impossible to disprove a phantom. The onus lies in the one making the claim, not in the one refuting it.I asked before. It would prove what??
Peace
1st it's a leading question, because the answer is obviouly no. This is called baiting.
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