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They are not unrecognized to God. God knows all languages.
No, he has been given the ability to speak in a foreign language he has never learned.
But the people there don't understand?
Who gave him this gift?
It's Friday morning 7.30 am [6.00pm Thursday, NY] here down under.I am drinking Nescafe, wondering if Waggles is doing so in Australia, praying in Tongues for a half hour...
It is Thursday in Texas, dunno about Australia
Evidently not in Corinth.
The Spirit.
What do cessationists have to compare?
In the Revival Fellowship worldwide where we lay hands on the sick, and if not able to directlySo where are all the healers?
The fact of healings from God is not at issue.
It's the notion that just about any Christian who claims to have received the "gift" of being able to heal other people has been seen going around doing it. That's where this discussion started, way back when, with the claim that all the gifts of the HS are available today in the same way that tongues are...and we know that every Pentecostal church is full of people talking in unrecognizable sounds they call languages. So where are all the healers?
Nothing! They have CEASED !!
Well, I had it backwards, it is you, Waggles, and Biblicist who must let ME know whenever Tongues PASS AWAY -- you would know it 15 hours ahead of me -- I would hate to pray in Tongues after THE PERFECT had come!
Absolutely !!!
Receive the Holy Ghost and the immediate outward evidence speaking in tongues as the spirit gives direct undefileable contact with GOD !
Just as in the beginning ..Acts 2v4.. included Mary the mother of Jesus....
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (MUST)
Joh 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth....according to the word, to pray in the Spirit :
1Co 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
Ac 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
the first 2 is your part...the third is Gods seal of approval !
Holy Ghost + speaking in tongues .. no tongues no Spirit..
Ro 8:9 .............Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Not to be confused with the demonstration IN THE CHURCH (max 3) to show you are who you say you are !!
when you pray..go to your closet, private place and pray...
confess Jesus Christ..his way...
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
package deal
obtain the Grace,Mercy and Faith that Jesus Christ has made avaliable to whomsoever will..
or have the adversaries religious confusion..just words no power !
Well, that's what happens in every church--prayer. It's not a matter of someone being "gifted" with the ability to heal on his own.In the Revival Fellowship worldwide where we lay hands on the sick, and if not able to directly
then we pray for them in tongues.
People get healed. Some instantly and miraculously.
Well, that's what happens in every church--prayer. It's not a matter of someone being "gifted" with the ability to heal on his own.
That was the point. Everyone in any Pentecostal church will tell such tales, but they don't have to rely on " I hear of" when it comes to tongues-speaking, do they? No, that supposed gift can be imitated by anyone, and every member of the congregation has witnessed it happening. Not so with the other gifts, although the claim was made here of ALL the gifts of the Holy Spirit being given to believers these days.I don't know about you, but I hear of healings all the time. Even raising of the dead!
That's not what is meant by "gifts of the Holy Spirit," however. With them, the person receiving the gift is supposed to be empowered to act himself.Of course! The Holy Spirit works through us. We have no power of our own.
That was the point. Everyone in any Pentecostal church will tell such tales, but they don't have to rely on " I hear of" when it comes to tongues-speaking, do they? No, that supposed gift can be imitated by anyone, and every member of the congregation has witnessed it happening. Not so with the other gifts, although the claim was made here of ALL the gifts of the Holy Spirit being given to believers these days.
That's not what is meant by "gifts of the Holy Spirit," however. With them, the person receiving the gift is supposed to be empowered to act himself.
"It" is the most common because it is the one most easily imitated.You hear of tongues being the "least" gift. It is not the least - nothing of God is less than perfect. But it is the most common because Mark 16:17 says it follows those who BELIEVE.
"It" is the most common because it is the one most easily imitated.
EVERY eye will see Him.
Yes, I noticed this blooper when your first posted it but I figured that you would figure it out soon enough; for what its worth, we should probably hand your 'request over to @Alithis as being a Kiwi that will place him about 2 hours ahead of those of us who are on the East coast of Australia!Nothing! They have CEASED !!
Well, I had it backwards, it is you, Waggles, and Biblicist who must let ME know whenever Tongues PASS AWAY -- you would know it 15 hours ahead of me -- I would hate to pray in Tongues after THE PERFECT had come!
Come to think of it, most cessationists tend to only see their 'human' spirit as against that of the Holy Spirit, I think that the malaise is referred to as Spiritmyopia.swordman only sees "his spirit" (lowercase) not the Holy Spirit.
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