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Now thaaats a stretch.And what were these wonderful works of God? Answer....Peter explains it in the next set of verses. Which means the wonderful works of God is the Gospel.
In Acts chapter 3 Luke uses "walking and leaping and praising God" when a man is healed. Yet no such statement in Acts 2.
And yet both Ivan Panin and John Bullinger are able to prove all of the original Hebrew and Greek textsFalse. The spurious nature of the Longer Ending is a simple recognition of its absence in the manuscript tradition, and is recognized regardless of theological tradition, denomination, or religious background.
I'm interested in your view of which manuscript tradition you follow.Only by unbelievers denying the anointing of the Holy Spirit as originally preached by Jesus and the
Apostles.
Evidence of the work of the anti-Christ; mutilate the parchments and scrolls containing the word of
God and substitute the word with another gospel.
Can you quote me the verses. Thanks.
And yet both Ivan Panin and John Bullinger are able to prove all of the original Hebrew and Greek texts
through applying Bible Numerics [gematria] including Mark 16:15-20
The last word Amen is I think from memory additional.
Thanks. Comparing both verses and the context clearly shows the 3000 on the day of Pentecost did not receive "charisma." Meaning dorea is used in Acts 2:38 as simply "gift."
Nor has anyone said that they were.The sounds made at Pentecost were real languages-not chirpings, howling's, barkings, gruntings, snarlings and yowls. Neither are the people at Pentecost described as losing control of themselves, dropping to the floor and rolling on the ground. Speaking In Tongues EXPOSED!
Thanks. Comparing both verses and the context clearly shows the 3000 on the day of Pentecost did not receive "charisma." Meaning dorea is used in Acts 2:38 as simply "gift."
There are not 2 separate kinds of tongues - a gift and a sign.
The sign of tongues in Mark 16, along with the sign of miracles (such as picking up deadly snakes), driving out demons, and healing people, was a sign to authenticate the early believers and their message in their missionary endevours. Carry on reading the next couple of verses of Mark 16...
Mark 16:20 "Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it."
All those abilities were miraculous powers given to the early believers as confirming signs to others. They would 'wow' others and cause them to recognize that God was indeed with them, and so pay attention to the message they brought. Just as the tongues at Pentecost did. The other tongues in Acts has a similar confirming function - they caused the apostles to recognize that whole new groups of people were also genuine believers and should be accepted into the church.
This ability to perform miraculous signs was given by the Holy Spirit (Rom 15:19, Heb 2:4). It is therefore a gift of the Spirit - the same gift of tongues, miracles and healing as mentioned in 1 Cor 12.
The list of abilities in Mark 16:17 were not given to all believers. Although it happened in the first century, such miracles as picking up deadly snakes and drinking poison without harm are clearly not given to everyone today. Such confirming signs were only for the foundation of the church.
That is the sign giving function of tongues. Tongues spoken in private is not a sign to anyone. In fact private tongues is completely unbiblical. Nowhere in scripture does it advocate speaking in tongues in private. That would be an abuse of a spiritual gift which should only to be used for the benefit of others (1 Cor 12:7, 1 Peter 4:10).
The was also a secondary function of tongues of course when it was spoken in church meetings - to edify others (1 Cor 14) provided it was translated in the assembly.
Charismatics have already invented a new type of tongues, the 'heavenly' tongue to compliment the foreign tongues spoken in Acts which they clearly do not have. Now we have a further subdivision making 4 types of tongues. How many more types of tongues will have to be invented to order to try to get their preconceived ideas and experiences to align with scripture?
A couple more questions..
I take it by this understanding of Mark 16, if there is a sign and a gift of tongues, there must also be 2 types of healing - the sign of healing and the gift of healing and 2 types of miracles the sign of miracles and the gift of miracles. Perhaps you could tell us what the difference between those are?
If Corinthian tongues is the GIFT of tongues, how come 1 Cor 14:2 says tongues were spoken TO God?
If Corinthian tongues is the GIFT of tongues, how comes 1 Cor 14:14 says "if I pray in a tongue"? According to you isn't praying in tongues the SIGN of tongues?
Isn't the 'gift' of tongues in 1 Cor 14:22 also described as a 'sign'?
Sorry but, but like the miracle of hearing at Pentecost theory, there are just too many holes in this idea.
It's not a stretch as Peter presented the Gospel in public after "wonderful works of God." The diaspora Jews were not marveling at prayer but the wonderful works of God. Peter then explains what this wonderful work is. He gives his dialogue on the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.Now thaaats a stretch.
About the time I think I might have to work at this a bit - you put your foot in it.
" Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47 praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved."
"One day Peter and John were going up to the temple at the time of prayer—at three in the afternoon."
they did receive charisma if they received salvation. Rom 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death, but the [charisma] of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
Only by unbelievers denying the anointing of the Holy Spirit as originally preached by Jesus and the
Apostles.
Evidence of the work of the anti-Christ; mutilate the parchments and scrolls containing the word of
God and substitute the word with another gospel.
Show me the text in Acts 2 where it says they were praising God?
"One day Peter and John were going up to the temple at the time of prayer—at three in the afternoon."
It is a stretch.It's not a stretch as Peter presented the Gospel in public after "wonderful works of God." The diaspora Jews were not marveling at prayer but the wonderful works of God. Peter then explains what this wonderful work is. He gives his dialogue on the death and resurrection of Je
Which frankly is the whole theme of the NT. See 1 Corinthians 15.
Yet there is no evidence of this in Acts 2.
It is a stretch.
The works of God in Acts 3 came a minimum of several days after the events of Acts chapter 2. The disciples in Acts 2 were not extolling the works of God which were going to take place several days later in Acts 3. That's ridiculous.
He referenced the chapter 3 works and events as being pointed to in the chapter 2 discourse - not any other works and events.The wonderful works of God are what He did in and by Jesus Christ. The wonderful thing, the good news, that the Messiah had come, He was crucified under Pontius Pilate, was dead and buried, but on the third day rose again, that He ascended into the heavens, sits at the right hand of the Father, and will come again in glory on the Last Day.
-CryptoLutheran
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