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<blockquote data-quote="Yekcidmij" data-source="post: 57443573" data-attributes="member: 956"><p>If I'm the employer I certainly do. If they don't like what I offer to pay them, they go somewhere else or negotiate a wage with me. If I'm employing someone and they demand too much for their wage, I'm under to obligation to meet their demand. If a janitor working for me demands $500,000,000 a week, I'm certainly not going to pay them such a ridiculous price. Surely you wouldn't either, which would mean you are judging what their labor is worth. A wage rate is determined by a voluntary exchange between employee AND employer. If I'm an employer I certainly do have a right to determine how much of my own money I'm going to spend on hiring someone to work for me, just as they have the right to decide for what price they will lend me their labor. Once an agreement is reached, the wage has been determined.</p><p> </p><p>Your labor is not worth infinite value. I'm not going to pay you just any ol' thing you want.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Then go work for someone else, or work for yourself. If I'm an employer, I'm absolutely going to judge your work and what it's worth. If you don't like my offering price and if we can't negotiate an acceptable wage, then you go somewhere else.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Good luck getting a job and having a higher standard of living then. Maybe you can spend your life with a picket sign in hand demanding everyone take care of you and give you free stuff. Maybe you can complain about how people judge you and how you are entitled to X, Y and Z. Maybe you can band together with others like you and vote to take other people's money and funnel it back into yourself. Just don't expect to be hired and have a job and don't expect the "priviledged" to stay around while you steal from them and don't expect to raise your standard of living.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yekcidmij, post: 57443573, member: 956"] If I'm the employer I certainly do. If they don't like what I offer to pay them, they go somewhere else or negotiate a wage with me. If I'm employing someone and they demand too much for their wage, I'm under to obligation to meet their demand. If a janitor working for me demands $500,000,000 a week, I'm certainly not going to pay them such a ridiculous price. Surely you wouldn't either, which would mean you are judging what their labor is worth. A wage rate is determined by a voluntary exchange between employee AND employer. If I'm an employer I certainly do have a right to determine how much of my own money I'm going to spend on hiring someone to work for me, just as they have the right to decide for what price they will lend me their labor. Once an agreement is reached, the wage has been determined. Your labor is not worth infinite value. I'm not going to pay you just any ol' thing you want. Then go work for someone else, or work for yourself. If I'm an employer, I'm absolutely going to judge your work and what it's worth. If you don't like my offering price and if we can't negotiate an acceptable wage, then you go somewhere else. Good luck getting a job and having a higher standard of living then. Maybe you can spend your life with a picket sign in hand demanding everyone take care of you and give you free stuff. Maybe you can complain about how people judge you and how you are entitled to X, Y and Z. Maybe you can band together with others like you and vote to take other people's money and funnel it back into yourself. Just don't expect to be hired and have a job and don't expect the "priviledged" to stay around while you steal from them and don't expect to raise your standard of living. [/QUOTE]
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