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Actually, whether kissing the icon of a Saint, or kissing a saint who is a living icon, we are greeting Christ in them and joyfully honoring the victory of Christ in them.Interesting
You're now speaking of those in the land of the living as opposed to those
who have died?
Sounds similar ... and a lovely sentiment.Sounds cool.
Indians do a little bow to one another and say "sat siri akal" (spelling?)
which is like "the divine in me bows to the divine in you".
Actually, whether kissing the icon of a Saint, or kissing a saint who is a living icon, we are greeting Christ in them and joyfully honoring the victory of Christ in them.
Then kissing and paying homage to a golden calf or an image of a tree should be considered a similar "greeting (to) Christ in them" since, after all, he created them no less than he created the saint pictured in your icon.
You lost me nowActually, whether kissing the icon of a Saint, or kissing a saint who is a living icon, we are greeting Christ in them and joyfully honoring the victory of Christ in them.
Isn't that what we all call you?Sounds similar ... and a lovely sentiment.
(though I don't recall my Indian friends using the greeting ... one would affectionately rib me by calling me 'you silly Christian'
Maybe read St Maximus sometime.Well, that's not true. The ethnic differences are always mentioned, but there are issues that cause these churches to call each other schismatics, etc....which is not described by culture and language. You're simply unaware of the issues.
They dont believe in Christ...sooo...Then kissing and paying homage to a golden calf or an image of a tree should be considered a similar "greeting (to) Christ in them" since, after all, he created them no less than he created the saint pictured in your icon.
I'm afraid you've missed something along the way.Maybe read St Maximus sometime.
Language and practice is cultural.
What are you talking about?They dont believe in Christ...sooo...
*Grabs some Cheetos and a drink
You're right. And if those "opinions" are contrary to the apostles, then it's not accepted. This is how we test our doctrines and Traditions. We look to the apostles to verify.We don't accept those things because we like the speculation, you know. That's what Tradition does--picks out the particular opinions that the church leaders like, from among dozens of contrary opinions.
You're right. And if those "opinions" are contrary to the apostles, then it's not accepted. This is how we test our doctrines and Traditions. We look to the apostles to verify.
So, you meant to qualify your previous post in that way but just forgot?
You're right, many Catholics have excommunicated themselves. But it does matter. They may not believe it, but that's their problem. Just as Protestants pretend that they're still practicing what Christ taught...when they only practice what they think Christ taught, which is something else.But the truth is that there are similar split-offs in Eastern Orthodoxy. I often think that the real difference is we admit it and you pretend that it doesn't happen.
That would only matter if you imposed it upon yourself. There are many Catholics who have technically excommunicated themselves but go ahead communing, etc. as though nothing has changed.
And we say that same thing. You ridicule us for speaking of the invisible church, but that's the same concept.
No, as I said Christ in/Christ's victory in them. The discussion started (read back) with the assertion that humans are created in the image of God. Icon means image - you and I and every human posting here are created in the "icon" of God (so says Scripture).
Do you know of any Christians who acknowledge or believe that Christ is "in" or has conquered is victorious "in" the heart of calves, in trees, etc. ?
OF course, you'd be wrong, too.Well, then we can only conclude that you don't know as much about your own church as you pretend.
Wait a minute, we already knew that.
The difference is that Catholics are divided, but Catholic teaching is one body. There is no one body of Protestant teaching...Look. I was not the one who compiled the list of differences between the two branches of Catholicism. I merely commented on several of them. This was one and it certainly is a difference. The claim was made that Protrestants are divided; well, Catholics are also. That's the fact and it's not made any less so by saying "That's a discipline, not a Tradition." It doesn't matter what you call them--the claim was made about there being differences, period.
The difference is that Catholics are divided, but Catholic teaching is one body. There is no one body of Protestant teaching...
As if that's what I'm here to do...doesn't change the fact.Wow. That sure put me in my place, didn't it?
As if that's what I'm here to do.
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