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The other day a Mormon responded to a post of mine where I had said that the Trinity is required for Atonement to function properly. Unfortunately the thread in question was moved to a Christian-only area and the post deleted so I could never respond nor ask about it.
Essentially Mormonism holds to a Henotheistic plural gods theology with pre-existent souls.
In regards to Atonement, Mormonism sees Jesus' Crucifixion as the conclusion of a sin offering to expiate sin.
There are a number of problems here.
If the state of affairs are as Mormonism describes, then I can only conclude the Mormon Father is a cruel sadistic tyrant, torturing one child to teach the others a lesson, and this child is so deluded he is like a battered wife returning to his abuser. I hope I am mistaken, for the few Mormons I met seemed quite nice and I would hate for them to be saddled with the metaphysical baggage here described.
Essentially Mormonism holds to a Henotheistic plural gods theology with pre-existent souls.
In regards to Atonement, Mormonism sees Jesus' Crucifixion as the conclusion of a sin offering to expiate sin.
There are a number of problems here.
- If Jesus is just another of the pre-existent spirits, even if the eldest, then his sacrifice could have been done by anyone. Would other human sacrifices then not also be propitiary, especially if we borrow Old Testament concepts like Sin Offering?
- Further related to the above point, does not ideas like Blood Atonement for certain sins that are too great for Jesus' Atonement point in this very direction? That more blood seems to be necessary for greater sins (at least in a perfect Theocracy according to what I have read on the subject according to LDS scholars)? Does this not significantly detract from the Atonement of Christ, leaving it but a deposit of propitiation which may someday run out?
- If God didn't take sin upon himself, isn't this just sadistic cruelty to one of his sons? As sin is something that brings distance between us and God, why would it be forgiven through the torture of a separate entity from the Father?
- Without a Trinity, how does Atonement occur as the normal Christian theories like Moral Influence, Penal Substitution, Christus Victor etc. needs this concept. Otherwise they veer off into a transactional arrangement of how much atonement for how much sin and Sadism as noted above.
- Why does Mormonism hold that the Garden of Getshemane is the important part of the Passion narrative? Does this not conflict with their stated idea of the Crucifixion as a sin offering?
If the state of affairs are as Mormonism describes, then I can only conclude the Mormon Father is a cruel sadistic tyrant, torturing one child to teach the others a lesson, and this child is so deluded he is like a battered wife returning to his abuser. I hope I am mistaken, for the few Mormons I met seemed quite nice and I would hate for them to be saddled with the metaphysical baggage here described.